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Jul 22 2026 03:41pm
Changing the subject isn't following the instructions. Less talky more punchy.

Try again.


accusing me of "changing the subject" when I'm asking you about your own direct statement is pathetic.

you made a claim, realized it refutes itself, and now you're endlessly repeating "less talky more punchy" because you can't defend it.

genuine 70 iq behavior looping the same sentence "but i did have breakfast this morning?"
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Jul 22 2026 03:50pm
You can't believe in laws to exist and not think there is good and evil things. The point of the law is to uphold justice against things considered wrong and evil.

You can't have both, so pick one.

Either the law should exist because there is wrong and evil.
Or the law doesn't need to exist because wrong and evil doesn't exist(according to addone)

Which is it?


You are confused laws exist because we prefer certain outcomes NOT that certain actions are inherently evil or good.

Using our earlier example of sex. Procreation is a wonderful activity and in fact is necessary for life. There is nothing inherently evil about it. We however have developed preferences around the act to avoid unfavorable outcomes. So we put restrictions around what you can or can't do as part of a social contracts. We call these contracts laws/rules. These laws are based on human preferences that we refined over 1000's of years and we will continue to refine them should they stop producing the outcomes we desire. New laws will be passed.

You have no way of knowing why certain things are bad or good because you think those things are part of magical being and you cannot know what his nature is and therefore no access to self agency.
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Jul 22 2026 04:46pm
I'm not sure what you mean. I'm not claiming there is or isn't a god, so there is no burden on me.

*edit* I just realized that addone created this thread, so yes, the burden is on him because he claimed Christianity is fake, which I would never do.

The position that Christianity can be proven false or true is an intractable one, in my opinion.


, can you explain why you titled the thread the way you did?

Can you explain what it means for Christianity to be fake? What makes it obvious? And how you can prove it?

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Jul 22 2026 05:56pm
^addone, can you explain why you titled the thread the way you did?

Can you explain what it means for Christianity to be fake? What makes it obvious? And how you can prove it?


The onus is on the christian to prove god. When no proof is present it is safe to say something is fake. It is obvious that magic (resurrecting people from dead, summoning bears, walking on water, talking snakes, unicorns, cherubim, satyrs etc) is fake.

If its not obvious that magic is fake one would need to demonstrate magic is real in the first place. I am proving a negative here through argument to absurdity. If unicorns existed there would be fossil records, since they don't exist we have no reason to believe they did.

Christian apologist has no proof of his own but relies on others to disprove his claims with evidence. Claims which are often are unfalsifiable or an appeal to ignorance. Not only do they expect others to disprove their religion for them they reject other competing religions without evidence. So its only fair to use their method against them.
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