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Jan 29 2021 09:58pm
Quote (thundercock @ 30 Jan 2021 10:57)
I still don't even have my 2019 tax refund so those mofos can wait lol

wtf is that lol. top 1% and still getting refunds! sike i got a small refund last year too.
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Jan 30 2021 01:38pm
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-biden-masks/cdc-orders-sweeping-us-transportation-mask-mandate-as-covid-19-rages-idUSKBN29Y2YG

Quick question: can the Biden admin/the CDC actually do that via a federal mandate? Arent public health measures largely within the discretionary power of local and state governments? Also, what if local authorities in red states refuse to enforce this mandate - can the federal government do anything about that?
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 30 2021 11:38am)
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-biden-masks/cdc-orders-sweeping-us-transportation-mask-mandate-as-covid-19-rages-idUSKBN29Y2YG

Quick question: can the Biden admin/the CDC actually do that via a federal mandate? Arent public health measures largely within the discretionary power of local and state governments? Also, what if local authorities in red states refuse to enforce this mandate - can the federal government do anything about that?


I think this is the important bit: The order will be enforced by the Transportation Security Administration and federal, state and local agencies

https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/pdf/Mask-Order-CDC_GMTF_01-29-21-p.pdf
Also, take a look at the "subject to the limitations" portion:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/264 Regulations to control communicable diseases
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/42/70.2 Measures in the event of inadequate local control.

How much do you want to bet that conspiracy theorists read the "destruction of animals" portion and say BIDEN JUST ANNOUNCED THAT THE CDC CAN EXECUTE PEOPLE!

This post was edited by thundercock on Jan 30 2021 01:48pm
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I think this is the important bit: The order will be enforced by the Transportation Security Administration and federal, state and local agencies

https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/pdf/Mask-Order-CDC_GMTF_01-29-21-p.pdf
Also, take a look at the "subject to the limitations" portion:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/264 Regulations to control communicable diseases
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/42/70.2 Measures in the event of inadequate local control.

How much do you want to bet that conspiracy theorists read the "destruction of animals" portion and say BIDEN JUST ANNOUNCED THAT THE CDC CAN EXECUTE PEOPLE!


Yeah, fine, the mandate calls on local agencies to enforce the mandate. Which is obviously necessary for the mandate to have any effect which goes beyond the one you could achieve with a recommendation.
But what if the police in red states or cities just doesnt enforce it? Would that, in turn, also be a federal crime? Or say a red city mayor in a blue state deliberately doesnt enforce the mandate - could the state AG do anything about it?
Overall, I see a ton of conflict and lack of enforcement with this mandate.
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Jan 30 2021 05:27pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 30 2021 05:04pm)
Yeah, fine, the mandate calls on local agencies to enforce the mandate. Which is obviously necessary for the mandate to have any effect which goes beyond the one you could achieve with a recommendation.
But what if the police in red states or cities just doesnt enforce it? Would that, in turn, also be a federal crime? Or say a red city mayor in a blue state deliberately doesnt enforce the mandate - could the state AG do anything about it?
Overall, I see a ton of conflict and lack of enforcement with this mandate.


this is the exact situation with legal pot in states weve done fine with for 10+ years. federally illegal, locally legal, and the fed rarely does anything unless interstate commerce comes into play.
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Jan 30 2021 05:27pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 30 2021 03:04pm)
Yeah, fine, the mandate calls on local agencies to enforce the mandate. Which is obviously necessary for the mandate to have any effect which goes beyond the one you could achieve with a recommendation.
But what if the police in red states or cities just doesnt enforce it? Would that, in turn, also be a federal crime? Or say a red city mayor in a blue state deliberately doesnt enforce the mandate - could the state AG do anything about it?
Overall, I see a ton of conflict and lack of enforcement with this mandate.


Based on the link above, I believe federal agencies would be able to step in. They wouldn't do that though unless it was spreading quite rapidly within a particular city.
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Jan 30 2021 08:49pm
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Based on the link above, I believe federal agencies would be able to step in. They wouldn't do that though unless it was spreading quite rapidly within a particular city.

they can start in NYC then
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Jan 30 2021 08:54pm
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they can start in NYC then


Good. Fuck that city. I hope they get hit by another 911 9/11s (hopefully Boston is also part of the casualties).
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Jan 30 2021 09:14pm
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Good. Fuck that city. I hope they get hit by another 911 9/11s (hopefully Boston is also part of the casualties).


I have too many memories in that city. I still have naive hope.
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Jan 30 2021 10:07pm
Quote (excellence @ 31 Jan 2021 03:49)
they can start in NYC then


Quote (thundercock @ 31 Jan 2021 03:54)
Good. Fuck that city. I hope they get hit by another 911 9/11s (hopefully Boston is also part of the casualties).


Quote (EndlessSky @ 31 Jan 2021 04:14)
I have too many memories in that city. I still have naive hope.



In a fuckton of countries, everyone - for some strange reason - hates the country's respective largest city and its inhabitants. In the UK, everyone (but the Londonites) hates London. In France, everyone hates Paris and its residents. In the US, everyone hates New York. Same in Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Japan, Indonesia and many more.

*shrug*
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