The slope of which curve, exactly? If we're talking about the confirmed cases curve, that's all based around testing. And until we can even start to test mild/asymptomatic people for the infection, that curve is relatively meaningless.

The curves of critical cases and deaths. I realize that the public isn't getting 100% accurate information on the death toll. But if we consider margin for error and create reasonable parameters for what the true count be, all possible scenarios still allow us to see that the slope is still rising.

Obviously, it takes a lot of advanced statistical knowledge to create estimations that account for margins of error. I don't have access to the methods since I am not part of their think tanks. But all the sources seem to generally agree on mid-late April as a general timeframe for the peak. That is as solid information as the public is ever going to get. If someone doesn't want to engage in a discussion using the best available information, then the other option is to not participate in the discussion at all. That's a fine approach, that's what the majority of the country is doing right now.

If they were being dishonest the time frame, then it's more likely that they lie and say the peak was earlier than it will really be. They want people to think "we only have to hold on for another month".

This post was edited by Kayeto on Apr 7 2020 09:12am

If mid-april is to be the "peak" that would indicate that it's all downhill from there, which would support the idea that it's far beyond "just starting", correct?

I believe we're some 4 days out from the next CDC report with official deathtolls, confirmed case counts, etc. Not the worldometer "mostly trustworthy but take with a grain of sand" numbers but the officially confirmed numbers. If that report falls in line with Worldometer's numbers, then the death-based model of the infection is probably correct.

Regarding overall numbers of people infected, even the CDC, WHO, and NIH have all stated they can't know, and due to asymptomatic cases, and the fact that mild cases act just like a common cold, it would take far more extensive testing to make an accurate guess.

I suppose that the particular phrase "just starting" isn't very substantive and there's no use debating the validity of that phrase since it can be interpreted in different ways.

What I took it to mean is that the next two weeks will be worse than the previous 2 months. New York and New Jersey might be able to see a light at the end of the tunnel right now. But we are bracing for weeks of hearing stories like theirs from other cities around the country.

Now, obviously this is just a projection based on estimations. It's certainly possible (even hopeful) that people in other places will have learned to take precautions more seriously so that things never get as bad there. I check the news every day in hopes of seeing evidence of that being the case. It's very reasonable to think that we could shift our trajectory by introducing external factors (such as widespread mask usage) before Florida becomes the next New Jersey.

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"Israel health minister, who claims coronavirus is ‘divine punishment’ for homosexuality, tests positive for COVID-19"

Fucked by God

Because hospital leadership across the country are telling healthcare workers to engage in self care and spend time with their families now before the "census starts to soar" and we will not have off days.

Never in my time in healthcare have nursing officers said "rest up guys". We are stockpiling for something that hasn't hit us yet. I have the same feeling i used to get when we were doing entrenched defenses in our tanks, set up and wait in dread.

Things will look very different in about two weeks. It hasn't really hit hard outside of a few cities at this point....and its just the tip.

Hospitals across the country have had no census. They are telling us we will be beyond capacity very soon.

We are still unable to get tests confirmed well, so the numbers mean about as much as a bucket of piss.

If nursing homes aren't careful you will hear about entire vent units dying etc.

You say people have no idea but the people who've been managing health care and patients for decades have an idea.

Barely anything has happened yet....sorry for the bad news




He deserved it.

This post was edited by Skinned on Apr 7 2020 10:50am

Situation in US is barely the same than anywhere, yet, there's no surprise. Dozens of thousands.
I have no news about giving free C19 care to people with bad or no insurance.

The real question is next months; for everyone. It start to be sunny here. People may want to go outside too, especially young ones.

LOL

Divine punishment indeed.

In general, Israel has a huge problem with the ultraorthodox fuckers who refuse to take the coronavirus seriously and are generally defiant against health recommendations and curfews. They are used to getting special treatment all the time, and they cant stomach that they dont get one this time.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Apr 7 2020 11:17am

i'm wondering, why is trump pushing that chloroquine drug so hard, despite the potential drawbacks (side effects without any positive impact, unavailability for those who actually need it, idiots drinking fish tank cleaner...) of doing so?

does it benefit him financially, or is it just an ego thing? really strange imo...