My sample size is strictly from long ago retired folks and people my age who are currently serving so it's definitely not representative. I imagine that most ENLISTED folk LOVE the guy because he took a bullet for the crew though. My cousin said that he hasn't seen an officer as well-liked as Crozier in his entire career.

Anyway, that's what's frustrating about all of it. It's difficult for me to determine if Senator Kaine is genuine in his concern or if he's trying to score political points. That's kind of the story of the entire administration though. Ultimately, the well is poisoned.

As for the media, I'm not sure if they even need to have an opinion on it because it ultimately doesn't matter. What's done is done. But yea, depending on the media you consume, you'll be exposed to something different. This is why it's important to look at various sources.

Personally, I lean somewhere in between the catch 22 and big navy fucking it up. Modly's (acting sec of navy) latest actions are pretty reprehensible IMO.

This post was edited by thundercock on Apr 6 2020 09:06pm

article about US deaths possibly being under reported: https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/06/health/us-coronavirus-death-count-cdc-explainer/index.html

Yeah, I can imagine that. To be fair though: the enlisted soldiers often times are not in a position where they can see the larger picture; and they dont have to see it.

Regardless, I personally also lean towards his firing being fucked up and unnecessary. (But my opinion on this issue isnt set in stone yet.)



If in doubt, I would assume that every word coming out of Kaine's mouth is disingenuous.

Regarding the poisoned well: to me it feels as if the well was already poisoned long before Trump came down that escalator in 2015. When do you think was the last time the political scene in America was largely working together in good faith, outside of times of immediate crisis? Honestly, if I had to answer this question, I might have to go back to the 90s.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Apr 6 2020 10:51pm

Tim Kaine is a failed politician dude. He used to be good then he turned into a swamp demon. He was a great Gov, a proper leader in what used to be a well-run state and then he souled out to Hillary. Got slapped almost as hard as Paul Ryno did in the Vp debate under failed orders by bigger swamp demons.

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Scary thing is this thing has barely started in the US at this point....we are just getting the tip right now....get ready for the shaft.

Any evidence to back this claim? It's been in the US since late January. By mid February it was in all states, by early March when mandatory lockdowns started becoming commonplace, hospitals were already being overrun and reports of doctors and nurses testing positive were pretty extreme.

Which part of any of this says "barely started"?

The fact only a small % of population has been exposed to it.

Slowing the spread means that it's going to spread everywhere, but it will just happen over a longer period of time.

We are still under 400k confirmed cases. Even though the number of people infected is surely way higher than that, it's still only a fraction of the country.

This post was edited by Kayeto on Apr 7 2020 08:26am

What evidence do you have that only a small percentage of the population has been exposed to it? Only those with severe symptoms roughly matching it are being tested. With testing so limited, it's not knowable what percentage of the population has been exposed.

This is kind of my point. You have no idea. People were still saying at the end of February, when we had confirmed cases in every state and deaths in most that it was still very localized to the NW and NE.

Bottom line is that you don't know how many cases there are, but you do know how widespread it is. It's in every state in the nation, and cases have popped up in hospitals in nearly every county in the nation, even super rural counties. The math there would indicate that there are more than a few hundred thousand cases. There are likely more than a few million.

Thus, this "barely started" thing is hard to swallow, because based on the facts that are known, the opposite would appear to be indicated.

because the slope of the curve is still increasing. If we were nearing 70% penetration of the population, we would be able to tell because we would be past the inflection point.

Right now, projections are for the inflection point to be mid-late April. That will be the halfway point (sort of).

If things slow down before then, it will be because we introduced some external factors to alter the trajectory (such as increased health care resources or people starting to take the SD measures more seriously)