xd failed job at EZB - Mario Draghi

blablabla...

the EU is constantly failing when it comes to long-term strategic interests concerning our safety and wealth.
the EU is constantly successful at forcing bad decisions onto its member states when it comes to matters which are threatening the short-term survival of the EU, for example the euro or the schengen treaty.


this is not a contradiction, and it even makes logical sense for a bureaucratic institution with shaky democratic legitimization.
the EU is assertive when it comes to protecting its own future; and lacks assertiveness when it comes to protecting its citizens' wealth and safety.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Mar 28 2019 10:29am

Everyone has right to have a political opinion, nothing is perfect btw.

too many facts for fender, he is in submarine mode again

propaganda victims comforting each other acting like their completely base- and factless rants full of bias, clueless assumptions, and ignorant allegations are worth replying to, or even 'fact'-based (the irony)...

how exactly is it "completely factless" when I point out that the EU:

• failed and still fails to protect and control its borders
  
• couldnt find a solution for the differences in economy strength/culture/philosophy within the eurozeone that doesnt amount to a transfer union in which the north is subsidizing the south infinitely
  
• failed to develop an efficient strategy for protecting our economy and wealth from China's expansionism and theft of intellectual property
  
• still hasnt been able to develop a strong joint military which would be able to deter russia, china, iran or any other hostile foreign country on its own, without american backup
  
• failed to promote sustainable growth and innovation, we are left behind on IT technology, AI, solar cell production, financial services; once the UK leaves the EU, we will have almost no top universities left
  

but hey, at least we got upload filters...

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Mar 28 2019 01:52pm

- in what way is your bigoted and extremely misleading 'muh borders' talking point even relevant to the china issue discussed here?
- which solutions should the EU have pursued that guys like you would have supported then? i only ever see you guys complaining, no matter what's done or what's not done, never solutions.
- you mean protectionism and strictly state regulated markets like china has? i didn't know you were in support of that approach until now.
- whenever a european army comes up, you guys are the first one to bitch about it - also, i didn't know that you're on the side of military interventionists - but in case you're not aware: china's threat to europe is not a military one
- climate change deniers complaining about being behind in solar cell production, this is getting better by the item. but sure, please tell me how the EU prevent its members from developing those technologies? and why are they doing it?

seriously, a list of moronic generalisations and completely unrelated simplistic (and outright wrong) talking points is not exactly a convincing argument to illustrate how the EU is directly responsible for every failing you just feel somehow has to be blamed on an institution that you hate anyway.
and just to be clear, there are a lot of perfectly valid issues one could (and should) have with the EU, but the ignorant bashing of a clearly clueless propaganda victim simply doesn't cut it...

This post was edited by fender on Mar 28 2019 02:15pm

Ow.. Good reasons for a reformed more centralized EU, gieb more ^^

propaganda victim this, propaganda victim that....or in other words
fenderp has no arguments and isnt interested in an actual discussion