Libertarians on parenting:



Thanks Murry Rothbard Keep the social construct of Western rights when talking about how starving babies isn't an act of aggression....



You know, failure doesn't come to mind when I think about Norway, Denmark, or other nations famous for socialism.

I mean, you would have to mislabel and conflate it with totalitarian agrarian society to come up with that parallel.

This post was edited by Skinned on Dec 14 2015 06:33am

Stalin managed to industrialize a nation the size of the USSR in a very short amount of time. Not a small feat. It was over the bodies of many countrymen but still.

If you say anything like that here you will get the kneejerk Communist is bad reaction. Over here, maybe up until being born within the past 15-20 years, the word Communist was worse than Satanist. You might as well identify as a child molester, except people here actually know what that means.

There are just so many dumb rednecks here

And industrialization there wasn't any worse than industrialization here. Only corporate apologists have this opinion, because to them only a government is capable of oppression. If a private employer is forcing you to work, owns your housing and the store you shop at, controls what you are able to spend on what by controlling wage and inventory, and control your health and families health by rationing their access to health care (why does health insurance come through employers again? To squeeze your balls more), and you aren't free to leave due to systemic circumstances you have no say in....well, there is a word for a person who falls into this category.

But if you can't call a spade a spade, or in this case a slave a slave, then you can't give an honest enough appraisal of the situation to form an opinion worth more than a warm bucket of piss.

This post was edited by Skinned on Dec 14 2015 07:24am

Its almost like you believe the shit you are saying. Incredible.
Its one thing to say a lot of bad things happened during our industrialization and that the conditions were very unfavorable compared to what we have today.
Its another to compare the communist genocide favorably to our industrialization, while pre-emptively mocking anyone who would disagree in order to further your communist anti-human agenda.

There is a massive difference between A) people moving to cities to work in shitty conditions for a better life and B ) The government nationalizing everything with incredibly dumb uneconomic policies leading to the deterioration of conditions and starvation and death of countless millions and directly killing anyone who disagreed.

Its one thing to not appreciate concepts like economic calculation and misallocations of resources and the difference between voluntary and involuntary, but you could at least try to not be so arrogant about your deliberate misrepresentations and lack of regard for individual liberty and prosperity.
As it turns out the interests of the totalitarian states are not the same as the interests of the masses, and that attempts for totalitarian governments to control society have been some of the most horrific periods in human history, no matter how many anti-capitalist slogans you repeat.

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Dec 14 2015 08:19am

You should read The Jungle some time. Get educated.



This post was edited by Skinned on Dec 14 2015 09:30am

Stalin was one of the best capitalist in human history. He was the CEO of a firm that had a total monopoly and price control on all products. The Kochs' are Stalin in their wildest dreams.