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Oct 27 2023 10:32am
Quote (fender @ 27 Oct 2023 18:37)
baby killers showing their true face again. disgusting...


My babies were killed first I am just returning a favor
Even tho we do not target them

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Oct 27 2023 10:35am
Quote (ferdia @ 27 Oct 2023 17:26)
When the US went to Japan, they did not declare Japan as Narnia, and then start taking more and more land from the Japanese. This would probably have resulted in the Japanese creating an armed resistance.
[ i accept some of you disagree with this logic ]. Isreal, as I understand it, was the ancestral holy land, of the Isreali's, and was "recreated"? in 1948 after the horrors of WW2. I guess it was inconvenient that people were already living there.

Its a slippery slope when you start referencing Germany and Isreal, but I will humor this as well - After WW2 Germany was split in two. But again, no Narnia was created and currently Germany is re-unified and run, by Germans, not America. To compare an invading force, taking over land, and over decades taking more land, (read; Israel, Palestine) to the occupation of Japan and Germany (which is now ruled by Japan and Germany respectively, not the occupying force) is misleading noting the occupier eventually left. I dare not even suggest what you have indirectly implied as I know it will drive you demented.

do you understand that this is hate speech? can we tone that down...

The occupier eventually left because the occupied nations no longer posed a threat and had even become allies. If present-day Germany was governed by literal neo-nazis who declare war on the United States and vow to invade Poland and France again, you can bet your ass that the Americans would come back to occupy them.
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Oct 27 2023 10:37am
Have you all played the game "Risk" because militarily stratagem is blatantly obvious here.

US takes parts of the Middle East and throws down 10 cannons. Those 10 cannons cover the entire Middle East and threaten China/Russia simultaneously because they are GEOGRAPHICALLY LANDLOCKED.

"Order through Chaos" ring a bell for anyone?

All these "kids" at universities don't realize "America' is the "big swingin' dick" ready to crack you over the head with a Louisville slugger if you don't "play ball".

The military industrial complex runs the gambit yet the average American soaking in the freedoms/privileges' men valiantly died for don't see it.

Then there's the people who deny the fact that there's a Rothschild central bank in every country EXCEPT IRAN/CUBA/NORTH KOREA. How ironic those are Americas "worst enemies"!

The US forcing everyone onto the petrodollar and using it as a means of exchange allowed our countries central bank(Federal Reserve) to finance the LARGEST MILITARY on Earth. Do you think Russian/Chinese/Israeli intelligence aren't blatantly aware of that when there's US military bases right on their fuckin boarder?

Why is the US military successful? We take the WAR to you and if you tried to "invade America" by force you are going to be met with an armed civilian resistance beyond your capacity.

Remember when Hiroshima and Nagasaki were turned to dust? You don't think that makes other nuclear capable countries "think twice" nowadays?

I only brought up these "things" because most people get tunnel vision and sympathetic when in reality peace has a price. War.

Do I feel bad about what's going on over there? Of course it's disgusting...but to the people who "really run the world" it's a game of "Risk" and those poor souls are in the middle of a "meat grinder" with no way out.

Is America directly/indirectly responsible for some of this? Yes. Want to fight about it? No.

"Terrorism is a word/phrase that was conveniently used as the pretext for a never ending war". America's been at war since it's inception. This is nothing new. Neither is the religious/theological conflict of the Abrahamic faiths.

If you can use that to your advantage in modern warfare it's over. Proxies and pawns...Proxies and pawns...

"Want to play a game?"

sorry for the tl:dr

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Oct 27 2023 10:38am
Quote (thesnipa @ 27 Oct 2023 18:26)
i lived in america during 9-11, so im not shocked. even in middle school you couldnt walk 10 feet down the hallway without hearing the phrases "towel head" or "sand ni**er".

it's part of the reason i discount any ideas on this conflict that include an utter lack of response from Israel (no bombing, no invasion, etc), its just not grounded in reality. real progress cant begin until israel's thirst for blood is quenched, sadly.

I mostly agree, but think that crushing the infrastructure of Hamas is a worthwhile goal in its own right. This ongoing/imminent military operation not only serves to quench a bloodthirsty Israeli public, it imho pursues a legitimate military goal. But again, I'm with you that Israel would be well-advised to show great precision and restraint during this campaign so that peace negotations with Arab states remain possible in the medium-term future.
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Oct 27 2023 10:44am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 27 Oct 2023 19:38)
I mostly agree, but think that crushing the infrastructure of Hamas is a worthwhile goal in its own right. This ongoing/imminent military operation not only serves to quench a bloodthirsty Israeli public, it imho pursues a legitimate military goal. But again, I'm with you that Israel would be well-advised to show great precision and restraint during this campaign so that peace negotations with Arab states remain possible in the medium-term future.


The Israeli pulblic is not bloodthirsty.
The israel public wants its kids going to collage not the army
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Oct 27 2023 10:45am
Quote (Many_Names @ Oct 27 2023 09:32am)
My babies were killed first I am just returning a favor
Even tho we do not target them


abhorrent and disgusting
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Oct 27 2023 10:48am
Quote (gnarjay @ 27 Oct 2023 19:45)
abhorrent and disgusting


Disgusting like the beheaded pregnant mother which was opened like a water melon?
Her baby was taken out beheaded?
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Oct 27 2023 10:49am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 27 2023 11:38am)
I mostly agree, but think that crushing the infrastructure of Hamas is a worthwhile goal in its own right. This ongoing/imminent military operation not only serves to quench a bloodthirsty Israeli public, it imho pursues a legitimate military goal. But again, I'm with you that Israel would be well-advised to show great precision and restraint during this campaign so that peace negotations with Arab states remain possible in the medium-term future.


i just dont know how infrastructure destruction ends up as a net positive for israel. lets say all tunnels are destroyed as well as every building 2 miles from the border as rocket launching sites. it wont stop hamas from firing rockets, and the entire tunnel complex was building up to an invasion. the invasion already happened, and hamas cant really do another with israel on high alert.

hamas's goals are accomplished, their entire operation was to grab as much israeli death as they could to provoke a war that would undermine the israel/saudi peace deal. they want gazan blood, their war is PR. now they'll hybernate and fire rockets and wait for another opening to rinse/repeat. i wont argue the phrase legitimate military goal, i just dont see it as any sort of positive long term.
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Oct 27 2023 10:59am
Quote (Many_Names @ 27 Oct 2023 18:48)
Disgusting like the beheaded pregnant mother which was opened like a water melon?
Her baby was taken out beheaded?


U.N or other neutral source for this ?
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Oct 27 2023 11:03am
Quote (Many_Names @ Oct 27 2023 09:48am)
Disgusting like the beheaded pregnant mother which was opened like a water melon?
Her baby was taken out beheaded?


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