Then why would you continue to live and pay taxes in those awful awful countries?
Your taxes paid for everything you just so dishonestly described.

Completely out of arguments and resorted to personal attacks yet again?

I'm flattered by you stalking me. As I said - I m proud to live rent free in your head.

#d1shonesty

I’m attempting to fight dimwitted propaganda and make people see nuance and hopefully at some point mend the bridges to make both Europe and Russia stronger. Divide and conquer policy has brought enormous harm to economic prosperity of both and the sooner people wake up to the grim reality of the cards they’ve been dealt - the sooner we can start asking the real questions to the people who are responsible for bringing us into this mess.

This post was edited by Malopox on Nov 25 2023 06:03am

There is no attack in asking a genuine question. Ironic to see you personally insulted me directly after

Ok I understand your position, as flawed and disingenuous as it is. I'm fine with disagreeing. Have a better day.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Nov 25 2023 06:16am

Not insulted - personally attacked.

You didn’t add anything of value for or against my statement - instead attempted to imply controversy in my character which constitutes an argument ad hominem ergo a personal attack. It’s quite basic debating rules really.

I’m sorry you keep losing so bad at this. Debating is not hard, you should practice more. I know and saw that you can do that when you try.



Any honest human being would argue for peace and prosperity among nations and humanity. Attempting to smear calls for peace and responsibility for warmongers “flawed and disingenuous” is morally reprehensible and you should be ashamed of yourself.

Have a good day.

This post was edited by Malopox on Nov 25 2023 06:23am

How flippant of you to admit to personally attacking me, I hope that you can move past that grudge you seem to hold.
Allow me to repeat again, I don't think about you at all.

If you misunderstood my intention I can explain more simply.
I am genuinely interested as to why anyone would choose to reside and bankroll a country who's foreign policy they seem to disagree with so thoroughly?
After all that's their hard-earned money being sent to Ukraine, that must be infuriating?
Perhaps it's some kind of political masochism that I'm just not familiar with.
But each to their own and if you would rather not discuss it, I can respect that.

You seem to misunderstand further, why I or anyone is so belligerent to your constant misdirection of blame onto the West for Russias war of choice.
It's simply because that misdirection is untrue.

Whatever framework anyone tries to construct, the blame for the war in Ukraine lies squarely at putins doorstep.
And ergo at the doorstep of every Russia who's apathy and complicity has enabled Putin to order such a grievous undertaking.

One of the most obvious falsehoods in that position is why would NATO countries become so dependent on Russia for energy if their intentions were to impose themselves militarily on Russia?
Why would Merkel spend literally decades trying to encourage Russia to be a partner?
How could any answer that question honestly and then still claim that NATO is entirely to blame for Putins war of choice?

It would require unbelievable levels of mental gymnastics.
And yet here many of you are.

That is why I take so much interest in calling out the falsehoods of the arguments purposed by Mearsheimer and echoed by yourself and others.

Yep

No one cares because everybody is being programmed to hate countries like Russia or China. It's part of US/EU foreign policy aimed at "containing" those countries, Western MSM are no doubt on board because they spam blatant propaganda at every opportunity.

Literally nobody in Europe cares about Russia.
First mistake.
Probably even less ordinary Americans ever cared about Russia, and NEVER thought of Russia as an equal adversary.
China is the United States competitor. Russia is the sick old man of the world constantly harping on to anyone who will listen about how great they used to be.

The only relevance they have is launching 8 wars since 1991.
Even then Europeans are barely interested. Ukraine was the step too far that woke many apathetic people up.

In contrast everything about Russias internal dialogue is having a omnipotent boogeyman, the USA, NATO, The West, Nazis, Europeans, Anglo Saxons.

Just rotate and pick whatever one the Kremlin feels like on any particular day.

Of course that will resonate with anyone staunchly anti US or even those miltantly socially conservative.
An authoritarian strongman is the perfect posterchild for those who see freedom, liberty and progress as the most tortorous forms of perdition.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Nov 25 2023 07:28am

^

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_States

Wake up then. You still confuse Avdiivka with Andriivka, Zakarpattia with Zaporizhzhia. My suddenly pro-Ukrainian (since 2022) friend.

This post was edited by Norlander on Nov 25 2023 07:40am

Your president wtill confuses Kherson as part of the Russian federation

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Nov 25 2023 08:28am