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Feb 20 2022 02:45pm
Quote (Skinned @ Feb 20 2022 12:22pm)
Are you on salary for Russia? Donbass is a region in Ukraine that is occupied and its inhabitants are being persecuted. Any Russians living there were moved in during Stalinazation. It is still Ukrainian.

And where are the concentration camps in Ukraine?


Yes, the inhabitants are being persecuted. By Ukraine's government and fascist ultra right-wing neonazi groups. A government and neo-nazi groups that received US backing during the 2014 coup, and whom Biden is now using as pawns to trigger a new war in Europe that literally nobody asked for.

Hence why they broke off from the country in the first place. Hence why there is a crisis in Ukraine. Hence why Russia feels obligated to defend them, due to how openly Ukraine has expressed its desire to slaughter anyone and everyone in the area, especially those that are Russian speaking or hold pro-Russian sentiment.

No amount of historical revisionism will help your case here. The facts are the facts - Ukraine seeks war and is responsible for the deaths of thousands of civilians, every last one of whom were their fellow Ukrainians. They slaughtered their own nation's citizens like it was nothing, what's your excuse?

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Feb 20 2022 03:16pm
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re-writing history again? they are russian-backed and -supplied. they shot that plane out of the sky with modern russian military equipment. don't act like this is not happening with the knowledge, approval, and direct support of putin, lol...


its not rewriting history to say that these guys have their own objectives despite putins support
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Feb 20 2022 03:20pm
Quote (chopstickz777 @ Feb 20 2022 12:45pm)
Yes, the inhabitants are being persecuted. By Ukraine's government and fascist ultra right-wing neonazi groups. A government and neo-nazi groups that received US backing during the 2014 coup, and whom Biden is now using as pawns to trigger a new war in Europe that literally nobody asked for.

Hence why they broke off from the country in the first place. Hence why there is a crisis in Ukraine. Hence why Russia feels obligated to defend them, due to how openly Ukraine has expressed its desire to slaughter anyone and everyone in the area, especially those that are Russian speaking or hold pro-Russian sentiment.

No amount of historical revisionism will help your case here. The facts are the facts - Ukraine seeks war and is responsible for the deaths of thousands of civilians, every last one of whom were their fellow Ukrainians. They slaughtered their own nation's citizens like it was nothing, what's your excuse?


It's so weird hearing Putin's words come out of an internet troll. Putin and his proxys are literally the only groups on the planet saying this garbage.
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Feb 20 2022 04:35pm
Did Putin already pay Ukraine?

This post was edited by Rebellious_Ben on Feb 20 2022 04:37pm
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Feb 20 2022 06:16pm
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It's so weird hearing Putin's words come out of an internet troll. Putin and his proxys are literally the only groups on the planet saying this garbage.


On the contrary, it's fucking hilarious to watch a bunch of braindead brainwashed sheep with absolutely no real knowledge of the Ukrainian crisis (other than what is being spoonfed to them by CNN, WaPo, and the like) call a US citizen, born on American soil, a "Russian troll" on Putin's personal payroll for no reason other than that they are too brainwashed to imagine that it is possible to both be an American but also hold pro-Russian viewpoints, and they're too braindead to realize they're being lied to about Ukraine by the same mass-media that lied to them about Saddam having weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

It's truly incredible how so many of my fellow citizens have learned nothing since 2003, and still fall for the same lies, over and over and over again, ad infinitum.

From the Gulf of Tonkin incident used to justify vietnam, to Iraq's non-existent weapons of mass destruction, to Assad's supposed gassing of innocent civilians, and now open support for straight up Nazi's in Ukraine..

Hahahhaha - it's not just hilarious, but also one of the most pathetic and downright disgusting things I've witnessed in my lifetime.

God help America - sad truth is, we need to be saved from this massive mountain of ignorance that lets the media and the military industrial complex get away with their crimes, over and over and over..



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Feb 20 2022 06:21pm
Quote (fender @ Feb 20 2022 12:53pm)
re-writing history again? they are russian-backed and -supplied. they shot that plane out of the sky with modern russian military equipment. don't act like this is not happening with the knowledge, approval, and direct support of putin, lol...


How do idiots like you live with yourselves?

You are supporting an openly fascist regime in Ukraine which has embraced Nazism and is filled with nothing but illogical hatred, hatred that led them to slaughter tens of thousands of their own fellow Ukrainian people.

Fact is, hate for Russia is so engrained in "liberal" culture that they are literally incapable of recognizing the truth any longer. Those and those like you live in a fantasy land that is held up by a gigantic mountain of lies. If you were forced to awaken to the truth, it would be a literal existential crisis for your very soul - that everything you were told about Russia for the past decade was just one lie after another, that Ukraine is the aggressor in Ukraine, how tens of thousands died because of them..

Your mind simply wouldn't be able to handle it. The truth itself is anathema to you - could cause you to go literally insane, because then you'd also have to face the hard truth about yourself as well, which is that you were a sheep that based your core identity and beliefs around a gigantic stream of nonstop propaganda, which you did not even question, not once.

This post was edited by chopstickz777 on Feb 20 2022 06:23pm
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On the contrary, it's fucking hilarious to watch a bunch of braindead brainwashed sheep with absolutely no real knowledge of the Ukrainian crisis (other than what is being spoonfed to them by CNN, WaPo, and the like) call a US citizen, born on American soil, a "Russian troll" on Putin's personal payroll for no reason other than that they are too brainwashed to imagine that it is possible to both be an American but also hold pro-Russian viewpoints, and they're too braindead to realize they're being lied to about Ukraine by the same mass-media that lied to them about Saddam having weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

It's truly incredible how so many of my fellow citizens have learned nothing since 2003, and still fall for the same lies, over and over and over again, ad infinitum.

From the Gulf of Tonkin incident used to justify vietnam, to Iraq's non-existent weapons of mass destruction, to Assad's supposed gassing of innocent civilians, and now open support for straight up Nazi's in Ukraine..

Hahahhaha - it's not just hilarious, but also one of the most pathetic and downright disgusting things I've witnessed in my lifetime.

God help America - sad truth is, we need to be saved from this massive mountain of ignorance that lets the media and the military industrial complex get away with their crimes, over and over and over..


You're not an American, Ivan.
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Feb 20 2022 06:29pm
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You're not an American, Ivan.


One day far in the future, after this is all over, you idiots will look back at this time period and you will feel nothing but shame for how utterly stupid you truly were.

At any rate, your weak insults only serve to make yourself look increasingly dumber, as you continue to accuse an American of being a paid Russian troll because you lost the ability to think for yourself.

It's just sad, really. I know this country can do better than this.
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Feb 20 2022 06:31pm
Quote (chopstickz777 @ Feb 20 2022 06:29pm)
One day far in the future, after this is all over, you idiots will look back at this time period and you will feel nothing but shame for how utterly stupid you truly were.

At any rate, your weak insults only serve to make yourself look increasingly dumber, as you continue to accuse an American of being a paid Russian troll because you lost the ability to think for yourself.

It's just sad, really. I know this country can do better than this.


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Feb 20 2022 08:47pm
One thing that's clear here is how much of an absolute joke our media is though.

Tonight's CNN headlines

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The US has intelligence indicating orders have been sent to Russian commanders to proceed with an attack on Ukraine, according to two US officials and another source familiar with the US intelligence.

The intelligence regarding the order to tactical commanders and intelligence operatives is one of several indicators the US is watching to assess if Russian preparations have entered their final stages for a potential invasion.
Other indicators, such as electronic jamming and widespread cyberattacks, have not yet been observed, according to some of the sources. The sources cautioned that orders can always be withdrawn or that it could be misinformation meant to confuse and mislead the US and allies.


https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/20/politics/us-intel/index.html

You have to be braindead to trust these people about anything at this point. They've telegraphed this type of shit for like a month now. At what point do fact checkers start calling out this type of garbage?
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