Quote (thundercock @ 23 Nov 2021 21:57)
I don't think the argument really fits on a left/right paradigm. It's simply a different set of values. I value technology, national security, etc. whereas Bobb just wants to be left alone to live his life in peace.
Definitely not. I don't value manual labor and I love the establishment, military industrial complex, etc.
You're the one who is a bootlicker to China (ooooo they are so manly lmao)
The first line... I'm honestly astonished. That's a very good representation, and probably the first honest representation of me I've seen in PaRD. Add in that I'm a proponent of everyone else being left alone to live their lives in peace, and damn.
To the rest... I mean, the MSM were jizzing themselves over the "beauty" of the missiles launched at the Syrian airforce runway. That was universal to all warmongers, left and right. Saying that because you're pro-tech, you're on the right? Big tech is solid left. Saying that you're pro national-security? The national security complex is currently targeting the right. I don't know how these things show you're on the right in any way, shape, or form.
The fact that you don't value manual labor is not a good thing, if you're talking right vs left. The trades are all about manual labor, not to mention the backbone of society itself, and are supported universally by the right. And regarding China, seeing the damage the Progressives are doing to the masculinity of the US, the very thing that provides the near-on rabid protectiveness of our nation, while the Chinese are actively promoting it? If we expect to survive as a nation, we're losing, and that's why. There's no bootlicker here. This is PaRD. We're supposed to be discussing reality. In reality, you support leftist agendas. I don't. I support something somewhere between the conservative agenda and the (little l) libertarian agenda.
With what you support, all the states combined have gone to 3 Trillion in spending of tax dollars per year, and the federal government to 4 trillion. Local areas have seen their lives ruined, entire townships have had their primary sources of industry destroyed, entire industries have been outsourced. What I support? Fair trade, so the slaver nations like China cannot benefit from slave labor. If they utilize it? Sure, we'll trade with them. But we'll tax their products up to the level that they're competitive with our pricing which values human rights and even the environment. Then we can compete on equal terms. But you don't want to have this discussion, do you? The fact that the current model IS the slaver model? Only with Americans as the losers?
As I said, one of us is on the right. The other is very wrong.

Quote (Goomshill @ 23 Nov 2021 22:01)
tcock and me are the only people on PARD who actually tested in the center of the political compass charts when we did those threads
I think the problem is we had/have a lot of ron-paul-esque libertarians and a lot of tankies so there wasn't much inbetween.
I don't respond to the threads, but my test came out almost dead center. Slightly lower (less authoritarian) and slightly to the right (less government). I've always acknowledged a need for government, the difference is, when they aren't producing anything, I see no need for cities.
It's not "society" if the cities are fed, powered, and provided clean drinking water by people outside the cities, then on top of that, the people outside the cities have to provide huge taxes for those in the cities, and in return, the cities provide nothing to those outside the cities. That's closer to a form of feudalism.
This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Nov 24 2021 12:12am