before 9/11 it was pretty good not gonna lie, I remember those days fondly. running around all day with friends and only coming home to eat dinner and heading back out until it got dark outside. since then its a ever-evolving shitshow tempered by youtube and flavor-of-the-month distractions.

perhaps my proximity to a couple major events made me take a ‘just forge through it’ mentality. shit happens to everyone in one way or another - personally am lucky i have two strong parents and i did well in school so that helps in basically every facet of life

a great deal of our general age group had quite a shit and drawn out coming of age with 9/11, shootings, endless war, recession, and now covid crisis. imagine trying to get your career started in the recession, taking years to figure it out, maybe going back to school or whatever and working multiple jobs. you get on track and then boom world shuts down. that is probably the story of millions of millennials/gen z it can definitely crush someone’s outlook on reality and i lament for the loss of opportunity for so many. also with so many outlets for escapism I postulate a lot of people simply do not confront their struggles, even with our general increase in society with regards to tolerance for people to talk about their problems

that said this is still America and you can still have it good here, you just gotta work hard and get lucky and all that.

God made the dessert to train the faithful. Onward we march.

This post was edited by EndlessSky on May 15 2020 08:08am

Very relevant:

Nope, Boomers all the way. Pussification of schools occurred before the Gen X'ers started teaching.

So, police confirmed this guy did break into and steal from the construction sites.

Weapon had been reported as stolen out of a vehicle.

Construction site thefts and breakins, as well as a couple of vehicle thefts and breakins had been reported to police prior to the incident.

Guy was NOT "out for a jog" he was like 12 miles from his neighborhood, and wearing boots, not running shoes.

He had his hand in his pocket, and given a firearm had been reported stolen, they were afraid he might be armed.

They drove up, got out, asked if he'd stop and talk to them. They had their firearms with them, but not pointed at him. He charged, and grappled for the shotgun, while punching the guy repeatedly. As they wrestled over the gun, it went off. Dead "jogger".

Now, it's been 3 months since this occurred. New "facts" still seem to be coming out. However, this thread is full of "racial kill, they killed him because he was black!" But I don't see that. I see a rash of breakins, to both buildings and vehicles, I see a stolen firearm involved, I see a request for conversation met with instant attack, and I see an incidental discharge of a firearm.

Now, IF he was indeed innocent of B&E (which police have confirmed he is NOT), and IF he had nothing to do with the vehicle breakins (dunno either way there), he's still got a problem. The "citizens arrest" bit is something being claimed by the prosecution. According to the defendants, one of whom is a retired cop, they never aimed their weapons at him, or attempted to detain or imprison him in any way. As soon as they asked him to talk to them, he attacked. IF that is the case, then the absolute maximum that can be charged is involuntary manslaughter, due to incidental discharge of the firearm, while wrestling for possession of the weapon. And open carry is legal in Georgia, so the fact that they were armed while confronting him is not a problem. They were not aiming at him, so there is no brandishing crime. That they had their weapons drawn is also not an issue, as a firearm had been reported stolen prior.

All this being said, this thread is absolutely ridiculous. None of you know shit. "It's racial! It's a lynching!" To the first, I doubt it. To the second, absolutely not. Had the guy just talked to them, then what? Why did he attack? If he hadn't attacked, he'd still be alive. If he'd turned around and ran away, he'd probably still be alive. I mean, had they shot him in the back or run him over, it's a cut and dry case. No, he holds some responsibility for his current and future status of "dead". And prior to passing any judgement other than "Looks like a likely charge of either involuntary manslaughter" or "acted in self defense" I'm going to wait on the justice department to do it's job. And I'd be saying the same thing if he'd been a white guy and it'd been two black guys chasing him down. Race is not at all an issue, where I'm concerned.

But yeah, I suspect this is another Michael Brown case. Hard not to, especially given the absolute lack of press for months, then the sudden hype. That smacks of an obvious attempt to prejudice a jury.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on May 16 2020 11:06am

The reason idiots are defending these two assholes so strongly is because of the idiots that jumped on this and called it a lynching.

Not a lynching. Not justified. Should do time even if he had a criminal past. How hard is that to say with the info we have pointing directly to it?

IMO a lot is going to hinge on the case made by both prosecution and defense. Too much of what people say in this thread is pure speculation. And if they go after him for Murder 1, it'll be a not guilty, relatively certain. Even with all the cries of "lynching" there's just no evidence that would even support a murder 1 charge.

To correct my last post, Arbrey did not live 12 miles away. He lived two miles away. It's been tracked down and confirmed. Changes nothing, but like to clear the record there.

Also, to those claiming that the property owner did not claim Arbrey stole anything, that's misleading to the extreme. Things were stolen, which he reported stolen. He could not say for a fact that it was Arbrey, hence why the cameras were installed.

At any rate, back to waiting this one out.

of course. everybody knows that if you disagree with the term someone used to describe an obviously racially motivated killing, the only adequate reaction is to defend the killers. that's some smart person logic right there...

People are just triggered by the term. This was a lynching, which is defined by the practice of murder by a group of people by extrajudicial action.

Even in what seems like is the best case scenario for the offenders (if Arbrey did steal something), they acted as vigilantes.

looks like Arbery was a good boy who just graduated harvard and DIN DU NUFFIN

ah.. LOL Eugene here is upset by his vocabulary..
hmm I wonder why??