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Jul 27 2016 10:40am
Quote (Skinned @ Jul 27 2016 10:43am)
You might as well eat a dick, lightweight.


Whatever, "heavyweight"



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Jul 27 2016 11:34am
Biden is a cool cat I like how he has responded to the sanders supporter's frustration this election
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Jul 27 2016 01:58pm
It's just really hard to be excited over a Hillary prospect when an anarchist Jew ran as opposition and against apparent belligerent delegate stacking.

I really lost hope, with Bernie winning states and losing ground. The Clinton years were good I guess but Bernie is the kind of President I could party with, like Obama.

I guess time and the polls will show; Will Hillary's unenthusiastic voting block carry her over Trump's symphony of hot air and irresponsible constituent?
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Jul 27 2016 02:30pm
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Her husband being impeached over a BJ is one such witch hunt. Especially considering the three ring leaders were Gingrich, Ensign, and Toe-Tappin' Craig.



I don't know how many are self-inflicted. The Whitewater thing has been drug through the mud for decades now and there is no evidence of any sort of crime, just a few people who have died since the 1980s (a lot of people have died since the 1980s).

The funny thing about Whitewater, is the whole Savings & Loan Crisis happened because of deregulating S&L banks and allowing to behave like commercial banks.....75% of American S&L banks were bankrupt within just a couple years of this, including Whitewater S&L. It isn't like the Clintons intentionally made these S&Ls crash anyway....there have been exhaustive investigations brought about by her enemies that have found nothing. Just a lot of mythology here about their ruthlessness.

I'm mostly referencing things like Benghazi committee, which has been the most expensive tax-payer funded GOP fundraiser in the history of their political party. The guy that was going to be the speaker of the house was sacked because he was too truthful about it.

People are making a lot of comments about the Clinton Foundation, but the only real criticism of it from a philanthropy standpoint is that its focus is too broad and diffuse to make any lasting impact in any single area. The scandal around it is about speeches and how their charity work intersected with those paid speeches. This isn't going to amount to much.

She will crack a few jokes about the email thing on the campaign trail....the interview will go something like...
reporter: "what do you always travel with"
HRC: "Well I put down the hotsauce this time (she pandered so hard with the hotsauce comment) and must say I never travel without my phone, like most people. It has all my contacts on there, little games I play, links to world news, and I can also access my email from it....but you heard all about that didn't you."
HRC+reporter shares laugh.

The email thing is only going to influence the votes of people who are already looking for reasons to hate her.

It is real easy for someone to be criticized for their way of achieving power. Especially by some person like Trump, who never actually had to get his power, and rather inherited it.

Clinton has been though a lot, a lot of it is artificial. A lot of it is clarifying what happened in an event (Benghazi) but then stretching that situation out looooong past any ethical guidelines call for and went well into the direction of character assassination. The best part of it is when Sec Clinton was questioned by their senate panel and she fucking slammed all of them publicly in it....their A-team. That was great.

The other things going against her scandal wise are:

She has a Muslim princess working for her (Huma Abedin)
She defended icky people in court and laughed about it retroactively. I can't help by laugh at the worse people done social work for after the fact. Especially when they've thrown feces at me.
She was influenced by Saul Alinsky (whose tactics the Tea Party used at behest of another Alinsky fan, Glen Beck)

And who knows what else her enemies are going to create or attribute to her. the list grows everyday.

Everybody talks about how corrupt she is....she is an American running for president. How do you get individuals go give you hundreds of millions of dollars to run for president? If you ever take money from a Super Pac you are corrupt. Guess what, every single presidential politician has to take money from the Super Pacs. It is political reality. Bernie would have taken money from the Super Pacs, and it would have influenced his platform. You can't fault American politicians for the capitalist system they're running for office in....this is no democracy, a marketplace of ideas where the best rise to the top....the best ideas don't rise to the top, the ideas that are partial to capitalist interest are rising to the top, and this is why American politics isn't equipped to deal with the problems facing America, because they want to administer the problems-solution toward Capitalists interests, and not the interest of the American people.

At least with the Dems there is some trickle down. The GOP loves to crash the economy by removing as much money in circulation as possible to put in the private savings of their friends in the form of tax cuts, which have an anti-stimulating effect on the economy due to lowering aggregate expenditure and demand for goods and services.


I think Benghazi was pretty much bullshit. I think she said something very foolish (At this point what difference does it make?), but I don't count Benghazi among self-inflicted controversies. It's fair to check that box as a big GOP fit about nothing.

The email scandal in itself isn't as egregious as some people make it out to be. The worst part about the whole ordeal wasn't her violating State Department policy but rather that she repeatedly lied to the American public about almost every aspect of the case. That's the part people aren't talking about enough. In the same way Watergate,, it wasn't so much that what Nixon and his administration actually did that led to his undoing but rather his dishonesty about the whole deal. We can't trust Hillary's word just like we could't trust Nixon's word. They've lied to us too many times.

I'll also add that she's more corrupt than the average American politician, and I think that is saying something. Saying every American politician will inevitably become corrupt when they run for president is a cop-out. We still need to hold these people accountable for their political behavior.

Lastly, on the case of the DNC scandal, she wasn't explicitly at fault for the DNC breaking neutrality and undermining Bernie Sanders. But the way she has handled this scandal has also been quite poor. Immediately after the scandal, she hired DWS as her honorary campaign char. The optics of that move look horrible, and I think the only reasonable conclusion to draw from such a befuddling move is that there might have been some deal in place had DWS taken the fall for the DNC's corruption. This woman was the campain co-chair for Hillary in 2008, for crying out loud. They obviously go way back.

Hillary doesn't care about playing by the rules or doing the right thing. The only thing she cares about is winning. You could say that about almost any politician, but she has shown a pattern of unethical judgement. She's also extremely dishonest. The honesty thing is my biggest grief with her. But if you think we should just accept a certain amount of corruption and dishonesty from our politicians who run for president, and that Hillary is average in that regard, I can't really argue with that opinion. Different people have different standards and expectations from politicians.
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Jul 27 2016 09:32pm
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Seriously?
http://usuncut.com/news/clinton-hires-wasserman-schultz/
Honestly, that just makes the whole system look like shit.


Why is nobody focusing on this?
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Jul 27 2016 09:43pm
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Why is nobody focusing on this?


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Jul 27 2016 09:48pm
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Why is nobody focusing on this?


This sort of political behavior is so normal to people nowadays from Hillary Clinton that they don't even blink an eye when it happens. The optics of this move certainly are bizarre. She thinks she can do whatever she wants with no consequences. Her pattern of dishonesty and corruption is certainly disturbing to anyone who is really paying attention.

People would rather classify Bernie Sanders supporters as naive and foolish youth rather than the future of American democratic ideals. They have been extremely condescending and demeaning towards us, accusing us of being stupid and violent traitors, but most importantly, they are wrong. They were wrong about the primaries being a fair process, and they are also wrong about what's best for America.

After more costly conflicts in the Middle East and abroad, the further decline of the working and middle classes, and being the last of any wealthy democracy to adopt universal health care, in 20 years, Americans are going to wish they elected Bernie Sanders. He represents the future of the Democratic party and the future of America. If you're curious to see what the Democratic platform is going to look like in a couple decades, look no further than what Bernie Sanders has been saying on the 2016 campaign trail.
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Jul 27 2016 10:46pm
Quote (ThatAlex @ Jul 28 2016 02:48pm)
This sort of political behavior is so normal to people nowadays from Hillary Clinton that they don't even blink an eye when it happens. The optics of this move certainly are bizarre. She thinks she can do whatever she wants with no consequences. Her pattern of dishonesty and corruption is certainly disturbing to anyone who is really paying attention.

People would rather classify Bernie Sanders supporters as naive and foolish youth rather than the future of American democratic ideals. They have been extremely condescending and demeaning towards us, accusing us of being stupid and violent traitors, but most importantly, they are wrong. They were wrong about the primaries being a fair process, and they are also wrong about what's best for America.

After more costly conflicts in the Middle East and abroad, the further decline of the working and middle classes, and being the last of any wealthy democracy to adopt universal health care, in 20 years, Americans are going to wish they elected Bernie Sanders. He represents the future of the Democratic party and the future of America. If you're curious to see what the Democratic platform is going to look like in a couple decades, look no further than what Bernie Sanders has been saying on the 2016 campaign trail.


Yeah honestly, it actually surprises me that no one cares about open and blatant corruption in america.
"But its better than trump"
So were a lot of other options the liberals ignored to rush to elect hilldog.
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Jul 28 2016 10:05am
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/289456-clinton-camp-laughs-off-questions-about-press-conference

It's been over 230 days since Hillary Clinton last gave a press conference.

You'd figure in light of all the stuff that has happened over the past few months, she'd want to speak to the American people and answer their questions.

But nope. Only wants to answer questions in a more controlled setting and in interviews where her campaign can pick questions.

HRC and the DNC have been manipulating the media since day 1. ("Chuck, this must stop." And "Write an article about HRC that makes her look 'muscular')

And some of yall still defend this lack of transparency.

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http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/289456-clinton-camp-laughs-off-questions-about-press-conference

It's been over 230 days since Hillary Clinton last gave a press conference.

You'd figure in light of all the stuff that has happened over the past few months, she'd want to speak to the American people and answer their questions.

But nope. Only wants to answer questions in a more controlled setting and in interviews where her campaign can pick questions.

HRC and the DNC have been manipulating the media since day 1. ("Chuck, this must stop." And "Write an article about HRC that makes her look 'muscular')

And some of yall still defend this lack of transparency.


I honestly think that they don't care. Avoiding public spotlight is a necessity for Hillary, so they are avoiding it at all costs.
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