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Apr 26 2011 01:59pm
Quote (hATemOnkEy @ Apr 26 2011 03:55pm)
Basically, the pro-argument is that there is no inherent danger or risk in having a unisex bathroom.

You pulling one article from google from a 'sexual assault family bathroom' search is not proof that there is an inherent risk for sexual offence because it is in a unisex bathroom.



All reasons I've seen to be against unisex bathrooms are prude OR fearfull of sexoffense. Both of which are laughable in and of themselves.


There is nothing traumatical about nudity. There is nothing shamefull about nudity. Nudity is not the same as sexuality. On the off chance that a female child sees a penis in a unisex public restroom, there is nothing wrong with that if that child was brought up with healthy notions about human nudity/genetalia. They aren't gross or dirty or filthy or weird or ....


Nothing suggests that just because your child (or anyone) is in a unisex bathroom it is in a greater risk of being sexually molested.


...by your argument a young girl exposed to a flasher should be just fine !

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Apr 26 2011 02:00pm
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That's kind of the crux of this.  The pro-gay zealots want to redefine everything so anyone can be anything at anytime, anywhere, with their agenda eclipsing that of the interests/safety of the children...


This has nothing to do with sexual orientation. At all.
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Apr 26 2011 02:00pm
Quote (hATemOnkEy @ Apr 26 2011 07:57pm)
And you don't think that's something that you were taught? The fact that you are weirded out by girls in your restroom is very likely linked to the fact that you (as most of us) had to use seperate bathrooms from a very young age.


Oh I'm sure it was something I was taught. But you won't see unisex bathrooms become standard in America. I think it's weird and so do many others.
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Apr 26 2011 02:01pm
Quote (hATemOnkEy @ Apr 26 2011 03:00pm)
This has nothing to do with sexual orientation. At all.


bullshit.
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Apr 26 2011 02:01pm
Well if a rapist had an intent to rape.. does it matter if it was a gender specific bathroom or not? He's gonna rape. ( Sorry If I generalized males, females rape too).
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Quote (ArcticShadow @ Apr 26 2011 01:58pm)
That's kind of the crux of this.  The pro-gay zealots want to redefine everything so anyone can be anything at anytime, anywhere, with their agenda eclipsing that of the interests/safety of the children...


IMO The pro-gay agenda would want gender specific bathrooms since they have no attraction to the opposite sex.
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Apr 26 2011 02:02pm
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ 26 Apr 2011 20:59)
...by your argument a young girl exposed to a flasher should be just fine !


After a while, sure.
She might have taken quite a scare and might need some time to recuperate and have some talks with her parents/friends/counsellors/...

But it doesn't need to be a traumatizing experience just because she's seen an unexpected penor.
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Apr 26 2011 02:02pm
Quote (bentherdonethat @ Apr 26 2011 07:44pm)
The issue: Genderless bathrooms.
The "Pro" argument: Does treats everyone across the gender spectrum equally, including people that don't fit neatly into the black and white roles that permeates society.
The "Con" argument: Pedophiles. <-- note the complete lack of any evidence. Appeal from emotion fallacy.
The "Pro" counter-argument: That's absurd because *list of reasons*
The "Con" counter-argument: Pedophiles! <-- note again the complete lack of ANY evidence.

I'm out of here. It's starting to feel like a debate with Creationists that don't provide any evidence while continually asserting that they're right.



I gave a great example on why genderless bathrooms suck (less urinals). Your pro argument is rather weak. The amount of transgender people is extremely small. This isn't even an issue and I'm shocked that there is a 20 page BATHROOM debate going on here.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_people_in_this_world_are_transgender
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Apr 26 2011 02:03pm
Quote (ArcticShadow @ Apr 26 2011 07:58pm)
That's kind of the crux of this.  The pro-gay zealots want to redefine everything so anyone can be anything at anytime, anywhere, with their agenda eclipsing that of the interests/safety of the children...


I don't see how you came to this conclusion at all....

Pro-gay zealots want gay rights. I don't blame them. I don't think they are trying to overthrow society and ruin the safety of our youths.

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Quote (ArcticShadow @ 26 Apr 2011 21:01)
bullshit.


Are you telling me that for some reason I am forwarding an 'progay agenda' because I have no qualms with a unisex bathroom?
Have you any idea how ludicrous that sounds?
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