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Oct 8 2023 08:26pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Oct 8 2023 09:23pm)
Israelis have done similarly reprehensible things, but you don't cry for them to bear culpability for it.


No, they have not done anything similarly reprehensible. I have always called them culpable for their actual transgressions and clashed with our local PARD JIDF over it in the past, but the Israelis aren't acting like bronze age barbarians
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Oct 8 2023 08:26pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Oct 8 2023 07:09pm)
80 years ago the Mufta of Jerusalem had a conversation with Hitler where they discussed how to get rid of the Jews once and for all from the region.


Yeah yeah yeah Hitler is evil, he wanted to exterminate Jews, we know that already.

But nobody ever stops to ask the question, why did Hitler want to exterminate Jews? And why does pretty much everybody throughout history, as well as across almost the entire globe, want to exterminate them? Does everybody have a problem, or do Jews have a problem?

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Oct 8 2023 08:28pm
Quote (JessiWan @ 9 Oct 2023 09:06)
You think Judaism is better?

Communism is the product of Jewish minds, and it killed hundreds of millions of people. As violent as Islam is, and I admit it's pretty violent, it doesn't compare to the amount of blood on Jewish hands.



To be fair and exact, the idea of communism is the product of the French.
The term was coined by an English man and Karl Marx is basically the Justin Bieber of the ideology who expanded the idea and made it famous.

Most modern ideology and their current form comes from France.
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Oct 8 2023 08:30pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Oct 8 2023 09:09pm)
Focusing on human rights (which often is just a selectively applied tool) misses the essence of this conflict and how existential it is. 50 years ago a bunch of Muslim countries got together and conspired to completely wipe out the Jews from that land, not to pacify them, not to prevent some sort human right but to eradicate them. We literally just saw dozens of pics and videos from southern Israel, of women and kids loaded up and kidnapped to serve as human shields. A concert with a bunch of hippies massacred. That is the reality of who Israel has to guard against.

80 years ago the Mufta of Jerusalem had a conversation with Hitler where they discussed how to get rid of the Jews once and for all from the region.

Focusing on 'human rights' is so myopic. If I was an Israeli Jew and my ancestors survived that, you think I'd give a fuck about peoples human rights that want to exterminate me like an animal? Would you?


Focusing on rights isn’t myopic, rather doesn’t have to be. it just requires flexibility and not being emotionally tied to one idea or perspective

as egregious as it was 80 years ago, Israel fortunately had support of the super powers, and rightly so, allowing them not only to survive but to flourish and prosper.

They have continued to have the support of the super powers and as they became stronger have slowly yet consistently and illegally committed abuses/expansions spanning decades. These are not really up for debate and Israel themselves have largely conceded, alleging they would stop. They haven’t

One doesn’t have to take ‘sides’ in conflicts all the time. Israel is guilty of quite a few shenanigans over a significant length of time. Hamas is a radicalized scum organization that should be wiped off the planet but like the mob they stay in power because the only $$ that enter Palestine are through terrorist funding Iran. When you have a society beaten for generations and there is only one source of $$$ coming, this is the shit fest that happens.

Fortunately we live in America as civilians (most of us, I know there are some brave ones here), and as such we can afford to be more objective without actual skin in the game. If you’re incapable of criticizing a side, rather both sides, then some reflection is required.

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Oct 8 2023 08:33pm
Quote (majorblood @ Oct 8 2023 09:25pm)
thor would agree with this why say "don't believe me?"


Quote (majorblood @ Oct 8 2023 09:25pm)
thor would agree with this why say "don't believe me?"


Doesn't matter, he refuses to respond to me after I destroyed all his arguments.
So really, this is for anyone that reads it.

BTW, the real Thor had honor and cared about his people.
No wonder netflix changed his name.
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Quote (Bazi @ Oct 8 2023 07:30pm)
Focusing on rights isn’t myopic, rather doesn’t have to be. it just requires flexibility and not being emotionally tied to one idea or perspective

as egregious as it was 80 years ago, Israel fortunately had support of the super powers, and rightly so, allowing them not only to survive but to flourish and prosper.

They have continued to have the support of the super powers and have committed consistent and illegal abuses/expansions spanning decades. These are not really up for debate and Israel themselves have largely conceded, alleging they would stop.

One doesn’t have to take ‘sides’ in conflicts all the time. Israel is guilty of quite a few shenanigans over a significant length of time. Hamas is a scum organization that should be wiped off the planet but like the mob they stay in power because the only $$ that enter Palestine are through terrorist funding Iran - and here we are in this shit fest.

Fortunately we live in America as civilians (most of us I know there are some brave ones here), and as such we can afford to be more objective without actual skin in the game. If you’re incapable of criticizing a side, rather both sides, then some reflection is required.

is essentially saying that Israelis can act like ferocious animals just because they have been persecuted historically.
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Oct 8 2023 08:40pm
This event has been called the Israeli 9/11. Quiet frankly it may end up being worse than 9/11 Israel should demand the immediate release and return of all the hostages both living and dead and the immediate unconditional surrender of all Hamas leadership, and all those that participated in the raid. If this doesn't happen then unleash hell.
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Oct 8 2023 08:41pm
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This event has been called the Israeli 9/11. Quiet frankly it may end up being worse than 9/11 Israel should demand the immediate release and return of all the hostages both living and dead and the immediate unconditional surrender of all Hamas leadership, and all those that participated in the raid. If this doesn't happen then unleash hell.


Are you an American or Israeli? Why do you want American forces to be involved in another nation's war?
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Oct 8 2023 08:43pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Oct 8 2023 09:41pm)
Are you an American or Israeli? Why do you want American forces to be involved in another nation's war?


Never said anything about American forces being involved, this is all IDF but honestly I'd rather give them military support/aid than Ukraine.
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Oct 8 2023 08:44pm
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Never said anything about American forces being involved, this is all IDF but honestly I'd rather give them military support/aid than Ukraine.


Why do you want your country's tax money to go towards another country's military?
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