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Mar 28 2023 04:37pm
https://twitter.com/Newsweek/status/1640783908907130880?t=sWpYdwut8wnA7yNtSNtz0A&s=19

radical fags want to prevent the manifesto from going public

i wonder why?
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Mar 28 2023 04:38pm
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I think you see this as trivial because you're comfortable with the distinction that we define things and not observe definitions. Believe it or not, I've had even decently smart users on this forum tell me that objective categories exist and science figures them out. So it's not a trivial conclusion for most people.

Most people have very poor tolerance for ambiguity. Tell them that a chair is only a chair because we call it that and they say "you can sit on a chair". Tell them you can sit on the floor so the floor is therefore a chair and their brain starts smoking.


Most people are indeed not intellectually capable enough to have these discussions especially when it comes to philosophy which this is

From a physics perspective (I'm a chemist but have a decent enough knowledge of physics) you need to adhere to the fundamental axioms of physics/math to have any meaningful discussion. I understand that you're technically correct that assignments/definitions w/e are arbitrary, but an arbitrary point of origin must always be defined and adhered to to have any meaningful discussion, such as latitude/longitude coordinates for space (these only mean anything if you define an origin). From the chemistry perspective too, models of atoms/molecules are just philosophical models and aren't actually real.
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Mar 28 2023 04:39pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ Mar 28 2023 04:36pm)
So much salt and hate. False christian on the top of that.


You’re not a Christian…. It’s funny to me how people use a fairytale they don’t believe in to condemn actions of those that do believe in said fairytale.
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Mar 28 2023 04:44pm
Quote (El1te @ Mar 28 2023 05:38pm)
Most people are indeed not intellectually capable enough to have these discussions especially when it comes to philosophy which this is

From a physics perspective (I'm a chemist but have a decent enough knowledge of physics) you need to adhere to the fundamental axioms of physics/math to have any meaningful discussion. I understand that you're technically correct that assignments/definitions w/e are arbitrary, but an arbitrary point of origin must always be defined and adhered to to have any meaningful discussion, such as latitude/longitude coordinates for space (these only mean anything if you define an origin). From the chemistry perspective too, models of atoms/molecules are just philosophical models and aren't actually real.


Indeed! It's all arbitrary. Our discussions are only meaningful after we agree on a framework.

My M.S. as in computational chemistry, so we're coming from similar perspectives.
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Mar 28 2023 04:48pm
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Indeed! It's all arbitrary. Our discussions are only meaningful after we agree on a framework.

My M.S. as in computational chemistry, so we're coming from similar perspectives.


oh that's really awesome, I did a 4th year comp chem course and had a ton of fun. I don't know anything about programming so that part was difficult. Teacher was this badass Spaniard physicist/chemist postdoc who would type accurate code at 180+ WPM.

Besides that though, I think that alot of people don't understand that you cannot simply bend fundamental assumptions/axioms to suit their argument, because as soon as you do that nothing is meaningful or relevant anymore
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Mar 28 2023 04:53pm
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I'm saying that assignments happen not based on objective facets but because we want to make the categories.

So a person is a ssigned female at birth, not observed female, because if we never defined female or never observed them in the light of being female they wouldn't get that designation. Same as you were never given the designation of "talley" even though you are taller than 4 feet


define assign and define observe
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Mar 28 2023 04:56pm
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Mar 28 2023 05:04pm
Quote (gnarjay @ Mar 28 2023 03:56pm)


"the slaughter of innocent children will continue until morale approves"

This post was edited by ChocolateCoveredGummyBears on Mar 28 2023 05:04pm
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Mar 28 2023 05:15pm
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define assign and define observe


Observe is the conventional way of physically looking at someone or something.

Assign would be too consciously or unconsciously Associate the thing you observed with a category.

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Mar 28 2023 05:21pm
Unfortunately, this wasn’t an attack on Christianity. We have hard copy now showing it was suicide by cop.

This post was edited by inkanddagger on Mar 28 2023 05:21pm
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