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Please take the time to read this first post and vote in the pol if you haven't yet.
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Just wanna say Happy New Year! It's time to get your life right with God and have peace with Him, knowing that you will go to heaven when you die. Read this first post.
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I am just doing what the Bible actually tells me to do. You should too since God is the judge, not you. Obey Him by placing your faith in Jesus Christ for salvation, believing in your heart that He died and rose again for your sins.


Why do you trust the Bible? Man told you to listen to the Bible, if I told you to jump off a bridge would you do it? No. So why listen to your pastor and a book with words? Just curious, especially when there are many inconsistencies with the Bible and Christianity itself.

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Why do you trust the Bible? Man told you to listen to the Bible, if I told you to jump off a bridge would you do it? No. So why listen to your pastor and a book with words? Just curious, especially when there are many inconsistencies with the Bible and Christianity itself.


A great question, should you trust The Bible? Luckily my old Church did a sermon on that very topic, which I recorded almost a decade ago.

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=66318140&f=125

Here are a few snippets:

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The first thing I must ask you is this: Would you be prepared to trust The Bible if the evidence were there? Carefully ponder this question before you move on.

Don't trust The Bible.

Many people don't trust The Bible due to various reasons. One of them being that it is a very old book. Something written 2000 years ago isn't reliable to today's standards.
Perhaps people back then weren't that smart, they didn't have the internet, wikipedia or any of that kind of stuff. That could be further from the truth.

The time of the New Testament was a time of literacy, everybody wrote stuff down. Everybody wanted to learn. To sum it all up in an age, I'd call it the Age of Education.
Basically, education back then meant a big deal. Being a Rabbi or teacher back then was a big deal. That is what Jesus was, a Rabbi, a teacher. In a nutshell, everything we know today has all come from what they all learned all those years ago.

Conspiracy Theory.
"Most conspiracy theories don't make sense nor withstand any scrutiny. They usually involve operations so immense that it's basically impossible for them to be kept secret, and all the proof given by conspiracy theorists usually have a very simple explanation (usually much simpler than the explanation given by the theorists)."
Conspiracy Theories generally have very simple explanations. That means the story isn't very detailed. Now when we look at The Bible, the stories are very detailed, look at the smaller detail. I'll list a few examples.


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2. The facts about this Question.

Does God really have your best interests at heart? The Serpent said to the woman, "Did God really say...?"
The result there we all know what happens.

It is built in humans that the language of the heart is mistrust. Somebody hurts us then we stop trusting everybody, we put up these barriers so we never trust anyone again. Now that in itself is fair enough but do you do that with The Bible?
You don't trust other people because you are scared they might hurt you. However, here comes a guy who gets hurt, mocked, beaten and bashed up. He doesn't dish out pain, he receives pain. Would you trust somebody like that? How can you not?

Romans 1:18-19
New International Version (NIV)

18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.

The wicked people suppress the truth by saying that none of it ever happened. They say it is all a lie, a conspiracy theory. Yet The Bible clearly says that the word became flesh.
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Jan 11 2023 04:57pm
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Why do you trust the Bible? Man told you to listen to the Bible, if I told you to jump off a bridge would you do it? No. So why listen to your pastor and a book with words? Just curious, especially when there are many inconsistencies with the Bible and Christianity itself.


I believe the Bible because it's God's Word. I believe the Bible over any Church, Pastor or Religion. The Bible was written by the actual eyewitnesses to the events. Secular Historical Writings suppport the Bible and that Jesus Christ died and rose again. Christianity should be based on the Bible as the source for what's actually true and what's false. Some Churches ignore the Bible and try to over ride it. Any Church that doesn't adhere to the Word of God, is a false Church.
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Jan 11 2023 05:19pm
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I believe the Bible because it's God's Word. I believe the Bible over any Church, Pastor or Religion. The Bible was written by the actual eyewitnesses to the events. Secular Historical Writings suppport the Bible and that Jesus Christ died and rose again. Christianity should be based on the Bible as the source for what's actually true and what's false. Some Churches ignore the Bible and try to over ride it. Any Church that doesn't adhere to the Word of God, is a false Church.


Biblical writers did not always write clearly. The original text may indeed contain ambiguous or difficult to understand sentences. The various translators had to choose between transposing the text literally and resolving the ambiguity.
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Jan 11 2023 06:31pm
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Biblical writers did not always write clearly. The original text may indeed contain ambiguous or difficult to understand sentences. The various translators had to choose between transposing the text literally and resolving the ambiguity.


why should anyone defer to your understanding?
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Jan 11 2023 06:45pm
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why should anyone defer to your understanding?


Thanks for considering the possibility.
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Thanks for considering the possibility.


you havent presented anything. "Biblical writers did not always write clearly" lets hear your concern.
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you havent presented anything. "Biblical writers did not always write clearly" lets hear your concern.


Translation over Translation with centuries of language variation. Not easy.

This is what i means. Is that clear now ?
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