Quote (Many_Names @ Oct 27 2023 08:19am)

Exactly!

Quote (El1te @ Oct 27 2023 10:21am)

So fucking insane how so many people nowadays don't understand this very simple law of nature.

The Pax Americana has made everyone soft and completely ignorant to the reality of conflict and how to stop it. You stop it through overwhelming force & pacification through occupation and administration. It's so simple yet young people are so dumb and ignorant.

Quote (El1te @ Oct 27 2023 04:17pm)

It's certainly not true at all.

Did the pacification of Germany & Japan just create more terrorists? How about the pacification of literally every other conquered nation throughout history?

It only breeds terrorists if you appease and continue to allow them to exist

Quote (Many_Names @ Oct 27 2023 04:18pm)

And they deserve every bomb they get on their head.

Quote (Many_Names @ 27 Oct 2023 17:18)

And they deserve every bomb they get on their head.

Quote (ferdia @ Oct 27 2023 10:26am)

do you understand that this is hate speech? can we tone that down...

Quote (thesnipa @ Oct 27 2023 05:03pm)

pm me if u want a list of idiots in this threat that LITERALLY consider gazans sub human. they're not worth engaging on that topic, although your rundown of historical differences is correct and valid.

Quote (ferdia @ 27 Oct 2023 12:14)

What about Palestinian rights to exist ? Is Israel not continuing to steal lands via these settlements (that the entire world bar Israel and the USA is voting against ?), I mean one can say that one side wants to wipe the other side off the map, but the reality as we look at these images of city blocks being leveled is that Israel is wiping the Palestinians off the map, and we are seeing quotes to dehumanize the Palestinian "animals", which i assume is intended to mean that as they are not human, they dont have human rights?

One side has sticks and stones and the other has nuclear weapons, is it any wonder the guys with sticks and stones (who are dying in their 1000's) would hope for the day that their jailers were gone ?

Lets make it very simple:

Do you think the bombing of civilian cities, namely, Gaza, is a war crime. Yes or No.

to be clear: what Hamas did was a war crime, what Israel is currently doing is also a war crime. if not a war crime, why is it not a war crime? How in the world can Israel hope to get more allies around the world if they are no better then Hamas ? I am not trying to agitate anyone here, obviously Hamas are barbaric in their own "special way", but I mean, look at what we are seeing right now. How is this not also barbaric in its own way? This policy of bombing civilians makes no sense to me whatsoever. You get rid of Hamas today, but in killing all these civilians they are setting up a decades long (or centuries long) problem when all the children that are not dead, grow up with a grudge.

Quote (ferdia @ Oct 27 2023 11:12am)

I know, i was reading through the thread earlier, some truly horrible comments from alot of people.

Quote (ferdia @ 27 Oct 2023 18:26)

When the US went to Japan, they did not declare Japan as Narnia, and then start taking more and more land from the Japanese. This would probably have resulted in the Japanese creating an armed resistance.
[ i accept some of you disagree with this logic ]. Isreal, as I understand it, was the ancestral holy land, of the Isreali's, and was "recreated"? in 1948 after the horrors of WW2. I guess it was inconvenient that people were already living there.

Its a slippery slope when you start referencing Germany and Isreal, but I will humor this as well - After WW2 Germany was split in two. But again, no Narnia was created and currently Germany is re-unified and run, by Germans, not America. To compare an invading force, taking over land, and over decades taking more land, (read; Israel, Palestine) to the occupation of Japan and Germany (which is now ruled by Japan and Germany respectively, not the occupying force) is misleading noting the occupier eventually left. I dare not even suggest what you have indirectly implied as I know it will drive you demented.



do you understand that this is hate speech? can we tone that down...