your the one doesnt have a clue whats in scripture. but you demand you can declare it false. that kind of reasoning only serves to strengthen my faith. the arrogance of the atheist/antitheist is legendary.

I experience God regularly.

For many people it brings up an image of a person, and there are stories written in big, long books that help with that, but I don't personally have that idea about God. to me, God is the Creative Intelligence that lies within the nonmaterial (or spiritual, divine, etc.) essence of everything. The fact that living things can grow and carry out functions without conscious thought is evidence enough that there is a Greatness at work in the universe. How a tree cycles through the seasons, how bees build their hives from the wax they secrete and collect honey, how fish swim together in a school, how a spider builds a web correctly the first time, how a child develops in the womb without any intellectual nor conscious effort on our part.

There are infinite examples that this universe has an underlying Spiritual Force which the word God can be used to describe (after all, it's just a word, nothing more, and no one including myself has authority on its exact definition). The world has had several extinctions - ice ages, meteors, floods - where all living things perished and yet life emerges again from the underlying Intelligence that exists. Science and God are not mutually exclusive even a little bit, everything that science can show us is real, and everything that has to do with spirituality is real, you just can't use empirical data to study the spiritual aspects of life because they is not observable with the 5 senses that science is limited to.

If you are a nonbeliever, there are definitely things you are choosing to ignore and probably aren't aware you are doing it. Even some of the religious texts have things that you can simply interpret and make more sense of; it says God made man from the clay of the earth for example, and our bodies are indeed from the Earth and return to the Earth when they decompose. That's not debatable. Your body literally subsists on food from The Earth's ground, and is composed of elements such as oxygen, hydrogen, carbon, nitrogen, calcium, phosphorus, potassium, sulfur, sodium, chlorine and magnesium, which also come from The Earth.

There is the essence of God, the underlying Creative Intelligence and Spirit residing in all of us. Whether you choose to accept that truth, or you choose to see yourself as separate from everyone and identify with your ego is up to you. The ego can only know misery because it is always separate from everything else, and therefore, never complete, never satisfied. Sex is the most divine experience this life has to offer because it involves physical and emotional connection (literally two halves coming together) and the ego craves that the most.


Coming to experience and realize this type of thinking is known as enlightenment. Enlightenment is not a goal to be achieved, it is what happens when you discard everything that you are not, when you become your true self. Some great books to read if you ever want to get off the internet and discover the true You and end your suffering which occurs only in your fictional mind:

The Power of Now - Echart Tolle (best to start with imo)
Be Here Now - Ram Dass
Becoming Supernatural - Dr. Joe Dispenza

There's many, many more.

And with that, namaste, the God in me acknowledges the God in you, even if you're not ready for that during this particular trip through life. Take care, all.

This post was edited by nowaisolame on Jan 2 2023 10:20am

I suspect it' just your brain ?

here is a neat lil youtube video you might like
Michael Egnor: The Evidence against Materialism

Yes anything we experience is limited to either the senses or emotional responses which are all related to brain activity. The thing I call "God" and my experience with it is simply a conscious contact that I make with it. Being very present, meditating, emptying your mind completely, what's left is a feeling of connectivity with all other life, and I refer to this "feeling" experience as God. I use the word "God" to describe a lot of things that are spiritual in nature and don't have their own universally-accepted word associated with them. Other languages that I don't speak probably have words that would suffice, but not English.



I'll have to look at this after work, thanks.

This post was edited by nowaisolame on Jan 2 2023 02:27pm

There is evidence of power in spirituality.

One example is with drug and alcohol addiction. A spiritual awakening is often the only thing that removes the obsession in addiction, as it comes with a complete psychic revolution which in-turn heals the brain's chemical functions. The dopamine and serotonin and endorphins begin to function appropriately without using drugs or alcohol. I was an alcoholic who was never going to call it quits, I hated the world and felt I was a powerless victim of everything, the world is not a fair place, there's no point in living, etc. etc.

When I became desperate enough to work a spiritual solution to my alcohol problem, it turned out the spirituality was actually the solution to everything I ever thought was a problem. The vast ocean of wealth that lies within us became apparent to me and an intense love and connection to all things became very real and drastically life changing.

Whether or not you want to have an understanding of God for yourself, I can say from experience and with the data of my own trials that it has a powerful effect. With the help of this spiritual shit I was able to have an entire new outlook and a deadly addiction lifted away. It wasn't self-will or me forcefully re-wiring my brain, it was simply letting go of ideas that were false and egocentric. What was left was a feeling of oneness that I call God, and it saved my life. Someone like can say it's just my brain, but what is this variable that changed my brain to be this way? I tried everything I could think of to stop drinking, but until I started praying and asking help from a God of my understanding, nothing happened. As soon as I did start to ask for help from something spiritual in nature, the obsession to drink was lifted.

Something to chew on. Believe what you will.

This post was edited by nowaisolame on Jan 2 2023 03:21pm

i to was also delivered from alcoholism among other things. its good to be free and i will never go back

I think some brainscans were done on people when they were praying and basically they were inducing themselves in transe state or where simply "talking to themselves".

IMHO "god" is exactly like a CHAIR: you know you are sitting on something but you never "see" it.

Remember when the Queen passed away? As the Union Jack was lowered Rainbows appeared at Windsor Castle and at Buckingham Palace.

https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/tradition/a41123522/rainbow-windsor-castle-queen-elizabeth-death-photos/

To me that was God showing His respect for the Queen.

I believe that; I am willing to accept that it may be entirely a self-brainwash technique. It works, though, and I can't say it had nothing to do with my new perspective on life.

We all know the type of person who complains about everything, sees almost everyone as either uneducated or simply born-dumb. The person who will argue their position on something and die on their hill, that guy who writes like this:

"lol okay bud yeah, you keep thinking that , *insert insult here and more emojis*"

I was that guy, and I know that is a place of suffering even though we can never admit it while in it, it is a feeling of complete separateness from everyone and everything, it's quite well summed-up by the Anon meme with the guy with a smiling mask and he's crying behind it. It's total identification with the ego and being a prisoner to it against your will, although it makes you believe you are in control, and that it is your own will.

Putting my faith in a power greater than myself, some form of intelligent design or programming or nonquantifiable, immeasurable divine energy has literally "saved" me as they say. Once was lost, but now I'm found, blind but now I see shit. A feeling that nothing that happens in this lifetime can add nor subtract from what I already have inside, it's a really powerful thing and whether or not I brainwashed myself is unimportant compared to the benefits. On top of that, it makes you want to share it with other people because you feel like you've experienced the meaning of life and true serenity and happiness, absent of attachment to material and egoistic dependency.

Whatever it is, I can't go back to how I was "living" before, if you could call it that.





Nice!

This post was edited by nowaisolame on Jan 3 2023 08:29am