Those same amount of people are already employed under the private insurers????

True, but that's not proving anything. In Australia, Plaguefear was paying $80 for his MRI. Even under socialized healthcare, you would perhaps have to pay $100 in the US, with the $20 difference explained by the on average poorer and more unhealthy population of the US when compared with Australia.

But that would still be a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE fucking improvement compared to the $292-7000 you are paying under your current system.


So while your point that there are structural differences which mean that healthcare in the US will always cost more than in the EU or Australia might technically be true, this effect is completely negligible compared to what you're leaving on the table as a result of a bad and inefficient system.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Nov 13 2019 09:19am

It's not about insurer's. If it was, ALL the insurer's would be under one federal umbrella already.
It the simple fact that bringing and holding all those separate entities under one federal umbrella, is next to, if not totally... impossible.

This is why every State has it's own DMV, and they don't even deal with insurance.

This post was edited by Ghot on Nov 13 2019 09:20am

AOC plays League.

Dropped.

This is also why the EU hasn't brought all it's separate free healthcare plans under one umbrella. The LOGISTICS of doing so AND keeping all the separate entities happy, is both costly and next to if not completely... impossible.




/e tl;dr version... If would'ves and could'ves were candies and nuts, every day would be Christmas.

This post was edited by Ghot on Nov 13 2019 09:25am

Except for every other western country on the planet..
We all have states buddy, Australia has 9 of our own with their own governments.

did you just seriously ask why different nations have their own healthcare systems? damn, you're 'special'.

that said, your little 'logistics' talking point is a complete logic fail. yes, you have a lot of states, but you also have a lot of people who'd be paying into the system.
for example: your average population per state is approximately 6.5 million - here in germany it's about 5 million. if anything, your logistics costs should be lower per capita, not higher.

did you seriously think you were onto something there, something that all the healthcare and financial experts completely missed in their studies? or did you just throw it out there hoping no one would realise how dumb it was, because you're so desperate for anything to attack the system that your masters (who are generously 'sponsored' by big pharma and the insurance industry) told you to attack?

Not with "States rights" you don't. States Rights guaranteed in the Constitution.



/e The US States Rights are more like the EU various country's rights.

This post was edited by Ghot on Nov 13 2019 09:27am

Even if every single of the 50 states of the United States implemented its own Euro-style healthcare system, you'd still be better off than you are currently.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Nov 13 2019 09:28am

Indonesia has same population, almost as many states and about a millionth of the money and they got universal healthcare up and running this year.
They also have 300 local dialects..

This post was edited by Plaguefear on Nov 13 2019 09:31am