Ok, look at it this way then...


All the EU countries have free healthcare. Why then aren't they all under the SAME free healthcare system.

The EU is what... 26 countries. So multiply that by two and then maybe folk will understand why free healthcare in the US isn't as cheap as it is in one isolated EU country.




/e And once again, I repeat... the issue is NOT the cost of drugs or procedures in the US. It's the cost of the logistics required to bring it all under one giant free healthcare plan in the US.

This post was edited by Ghot on Nov 13 2019 08:58am

When you increase people in a system and negotiate on their behalf prices go down per person, not up. Ever heard of buying in bulk?

Duh... really. Holy crap. No one ever thought of that before. You're a genius. :/


/e Someone should explain that to Walmart and Costco. :/

This post was edited by Ghot on Nov 13 2019 09:00am

And yet you seem to think that prices would increase.

Read the post #33751 a few times till it starts to make sense. It's my fault for not explaining it better. BUT, that doesn't change the fact that it is the reason why it will cost more in the US, than it does in say Australia or Holland.

I never said it does?!
I'm not a fan of Bernie's medicare for all plan. Irrespective from that, I think that the US military budget is overblown, and that part of it should go toward fixing the infrastructure/improving healthcare/boosting education/reducing the deficit.




No, it's not, because 'diminishing returns' are a real thing. To name a simple example: going from zero nukes to one significantly alters a country's strategic position. Going from one nuke to 20 nukes also changes its position. Going from 2000 to 3000 nukes, on the other hand, does almost nothing.

How so? It's already being done with profit driven middlemen with a thousandth of the purchasing power..
There is insurance parasites who operate in all 50 states.
The population of Europe is 741 million btw.
European countries also have states by the way, so does Australia..

This post was edited by Plaguefear on Nov 13 2019 09:07am

Over all 26 countries in the EU, under the SAME free healthcare plan. By your folks logic it would save everyone in the EU buckets of money.

Or in the US, why isn't the Dept. of Motor Vehicles all under one federal plan?

This post was edited by Ghot on Nov 13 2019 09:07am

Because the eu are separate countries, not states..
The federal government of the United states can make pot illegal in all 50 states no problem..
You are comparing a trade alliance to a country with a federal government and central control..

This post was edited by Plaguefear on Nov 13 2019 09:11am

AHHHH... give that man a gold star.

Yes, the EU has individual country's rights... just like the US has individual States rights. That's part of the Constitution, unlike pot laws.

The sheer amount of additional people required (administrators, lawyers, State's people, arbiters, etc.), would drive the costs through the roof, even IF it could all be worked out while keeping every State or (in the EU) country, happy.

This post was edited by Ghot on Nov 13 2019 09:14am