I'll stick with what I said.




And here's a little tidbit to go with folk's morning coffee...





This post was edited by Ghot on Nov 13 2019 07:28am

Had someone arguing with me for days and days that Bernie’s healthcare plan was solid as a rock and I needed to stop ‘listening to the mainstream’ when I told her that there was no sound plan in place to pay for it all, she tells me there will be a ‘slight hike’ on our taxes and all in all we will pay less than we pay the insurance company, then tells me to look it up on Bernie’s site, I combed the site and it surely says how we should be spending money on medicare for all and how he’s going to half prescription prices and even make our namebrand medications cheaper than generics are now. Nowhere on the site did I come across his plan to pay for it all, after all it’s a 3trillion/year + plan... then ofc he touts free education too - and that a small tax on all stock transactions will pay for EVERYONE to have at least a bachelors... and forgive all student debt, this guy went to some sort of clown college or something or he’s just straight up insane... my favorite part was that she tells me to stop listening to the mainstream and points me at this guy’s personal campaign website because ofc that is gonna give a great non-biased view right? Ugh the hypocrisy... lmfao... I pointed her at a washington post article that says his plans look too good to be true, because they are. And that’s from the post, pretty sure they lean left pretty hard and they cant even get behind his bs... anyways yeah I think free healthcare and education would be wonderful, but in the process we can’t cripple the country to do it. We definitely can’t take away from military presence, you’re right about that because if we cause no threat then we will cease to exist fast, the world isn’t exactly a nice place tbh.

The generals will always push for more funding, as does everyone else.
It's the job of the government to reign it in.



If China wanted Australia they would have it and nothing short of a nuclear holocaust could prevent it, by the time the us would be able to mobilize we would already be a wasteland.
The fact is China can buy us cheaper than they can annex us so them invading is a dumb thought bubble those on the right keep spouting off but has zero chance of happening with or without the tiny us presence in this region.

So which Arabic country could conquer Europe and its multiple nuclear countries?

This post was edited by Plaguefear on Nov 13 2019 07:50am

Here’s the real question for you, if we saved 393billion/yr on military expenses how does that pay for a 3trillion/yr healthcare plan.

And literally you’re saying lets cut over half of military spending, the us has plenty of enemies out there and if we cut 4/7ths of our military you can trust that its only going to be 3/7ths as strong as it is. Overkill as you call it is what’s keeping us safe. I’m with ghot, the generals know what’s up with this shit.

I seriously love your avatar.

Because that 3 trillion number is a fantasy.

Australia isn't stupid enough to sell out to China. THAT is why we need the military.



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You're right. 3 trillion/year is LESS than what it would cost.

This post was edited by Ghot on Nov 13 2019 07:52am

Considering even the most conservative groups estimate we would save a trillion over 10 years (less biased groups say 2.2 trillion) compared with current insurance premium cost we wouldnt have to put any if that towards healthcare spending. It would, however, pay for a shit load of roads and easily pay the estimated 600 billion over ten years for free college.

Our military would be weaker, but since we currently outspend our next 7 competitors combined, all but 2 are our allies, we would be fine.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Nov 13 2019 07:53am

We literally sold them the port of Darwin..

Yeah ok, I'll take your word for it, except I live in the system I advocate and medical costs here are a tenth of yours..