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Austria is the first European nation to lower restrictions. After Easter small shops can open again, on the condition that customers use masks and keep distance from eachother. If things keep going well, major shops/malls will open on the 1st of May. Another 2 weeks for hotels/restaurants.
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Apr 6 2020 04:58am
Quote (KungPeriodFu @ Apr 6 2020 03:23am)
there's a difference between under-reporting and lacking the supplies to provide an accurate accounting


the official world corona death count is 70k.

There are various reasons in different countries for reported death count to be lower than actual death count.

what do you think the real death count is?

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It's easy to count dead bodies


One dies in bed, had a sad cough, but no one care and tests aren't free... Not recorded.
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Quote (Kayeto @ Apr 6 2020 03:58am)
the official world corona death count is 70k.

There are various reasons in different countries for reported death count to be lower than actual death count.

what do you think the real death count is?


Official according to whom?

Last I checked, the only "Official" numbers are coming out of WHO/NIH/CDC, and they're reporting numbers far lower.

Perhaps you're referring to Worldometer? If so, those aren't official numbers. It's an aggregate service that uses everything from official reports to news articles to "guess".

Oddly enough, the same news reports then refer back to worldometer, and suddenly it's "official".

Come off it, seriously.

The "real" death count could be 100K, but jumping to conclusions without facts is no less idiotic.
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Apr 6 2020 09:16am
Interesting read with some really interesting points.

>9 of the 100 worlds top billionaires have gotten richer during this crises, the other lost 400 billion

>All of them are Chinese

>Chinese stock market has fared relatively well compared to Europe or US

>Many Chinese companies actually made a killing because of uptick in demand for healthcare products like masks

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/only-9-of-the-worlds-top-100-billionaires-have-gotten-richer-during-the-pandemic-and-all-are-chinese-2020-04-06?siteid=yhoof2

Pretty fucked up how China lied about the severity of this and it's oligarchs actually made money off it. The world needs to band together against such predatory behavior. When this is all said and done, i hope Europe, US and other key partners try to diversify away from China considering even in a time of crises they just look to gain at the expense of the suffering countries.

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Interesting read with some really interesting points.

>9 of the 100 worlds top billionaires have gotten richer during this crises, the other lost 400 billion

>All of them are Chinese

>Chinese stock market has fared relatively well compared to Europe or US

>Many Chinese companies actually made a killing because of uptick in demand for healthcare products like masks

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/only-9-of-the-worlds-top-100-billionaires-have-gotten-richer-during-the-pandemic-and-all-are-chinese-2020-04-06?siteid=yhoof2

Pretty fucked up how China lied about the severity of this and it's oligarchs actually made money off it. The world needs to band together against such predatory behavior. When this is all said and done, i hope Europe, US and other key partners try to diversify away from China considering even in a time of crises they just look to gain at the expense of the suffering countries.


Meh. How often in history have there been wars and the rich from the aggressor state got richer? For example the Iraq War and how the stakeholders of the military-industrial complex have benefitted from it.


Also, most of those billionaires have only gotten poorer on paper because the stock price of their companies fell. They are in no hurry to sell their stock though, they can sit this out, at least for the moment. Simply put, it's way too early to assess the long-term economic impact of this crisis. If the health crisis is over and the world economy has been back to normal for 1 year plus, then we can look at the stock markets and compare prices to the pre-crisis level.

Along the same line of reasoning, I would expect Chinese manufacturers of healthcare products like masks to lose their momentary gains in the long run. The spike in demand for their products will go away, and after the crisis, a lot of the western world will want to relocate this kind of critical production back from China to the West. So although they look like the beneficiaries right now, they might in the long run end up being among the losers of this crisis.
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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Apr 6 2020 07:07am)
One dies in bed, had a sad cough, but no one care and tests aren't free... Not recorded.


Coughing is the new N-word here.

Governor Dewine killing it. Another Republican governor of Ohio who has proven to be a badass.

If Kasich was in White House and Dewine was in charge of my state. ...dream team.

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Apr 6 2020 10:12am
The way hydroxychloroquine works with Lupus is by changing the behavior of signalling pathways in the immune system.

This also suggests that the way novel Coronavirus operates is by interfering with the operation of the immune system.

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Quote (ofthevoid @ Apr 6 2020 09:16am)
Interesting read with some really interesting points.

>9 of the 100 worlds top billionaires have gotten richer during this crises, the other lost 400 billion

>All of them are Chinese

>Chinese stock market has fared relatively well compared to Europe or US

>Many Chinese companies actually made a killing because of uptick in demand for healthcare products like masks

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/only-9-of-the-worlds-top-100-billionaires-have-gotten-richer-during-the-pandemic-and-all-are-chinese-2020-04-06?siteid=yhoof2

Pretty fucked up how China lied about the severity of this and it's oligarchs actually made money off it. The world needs to band together against such predatory behavior. When this is all said and done, i hope Europe, US and other key partners try to diversify away from China considering even in a time of crises they just look to gain at the expense of the suffering countries.


That aint happening lol
China lent some European countries tons of money during the global recession and a lot of them flopped so they sold out rights to their ports to pay them back.
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Apr 6 2020 10:31am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Apr 6 2020 10:16am)
Interesting read with some really interesting points.

>9 of the 100 worlds top billionaires have gotten richer during this crises, the other lost 400 billion

>All of them are Chinese

>Chinese stock market has fared relatively well compared to Europe or US

>Many Chinese companies actually made a killing because of uptick in demand for healthcare products like masks

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/only-9-of-the-worlds-top-100-billionaires-have-gotten-richer-during-the-pandemic-and-all-are-chinese-2020-04-06?siteid=yhoof2

Pretty fucked up how China lied about the severity of this and it's oligarchs actually made money off it. The world needs to band together against such predatory behavior. When this is all said and done, i hope Europe, US and other key partners try to diversify away from China considering even in a time of crises they just look to gain at the expense of the suffering countries.


country that makes nearly all of the world's masks and other assorted healthcare products got richer in a health crisis, color me shocked....

paper companies made a killing making TP for idiots in America as well. one of the plants we did conveyor for had a truck line that was nearly 3 miles long.
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