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Mar 24 2019 09:53am
Quote (dro94 @ Mar 24 2019 04:42am)
Literally the next PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAqyf7a4xFM

https://imgur.com/TgJ3gGy.gif


Least it's not ferries failing grayling.

Could be worse I suppose, could be bastard boris... stuff of nightmares
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Mar 25 2019 04:52am
Looks like the coup has failed for now...seriously what the fuck is going on?
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Mar 25 2019 06:38am
Quote (dro94 @ 25 Mar 2019 11:52)
Looks like the coup has failed for now...seriously what the fuck is going on?


this is better than GoT - even more plot twists and backstabbing :drool:
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Mar 26 2019 08:26am
Aaand Article 13 passed... barely.

Vote on amendment: 212 for-217 against-24 no vote.

Vote to adopt the copyright directive: 348 for-274 against - 36 no vote.

If you want to see who voted what:
https://juliareda.eu/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/copyrightvote.pdf

Gotta say I'm a bit disappointed, even though many parties in my country voted in favour of freedom on the internet (actually one thing the eurosceptics and environmentalists agree on). Socdems and traditional (Christian) conservatives appear to be the ones responsible for this passing.
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Mar 26 2019 08:33am
Quote (balrog66 @ Mar 26 2019 10:26am)
Aaand Article 13 passed... barely.

Vote on amendment: 212 for-217 against-24 no vote.

Vote to adopt the copyright directive: 348 for-274 against - 36 no vote.

If you want to see who voted what:
https://juliareda.eu/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/copyrightvote.pdf

Gotta say I'm a bit disappointed, even though many parties in my country voted in favour of freedom on the internet (actually one thing the eurosceptics and environmentalists agree on). Socdems and traditional (Christian) conservatives appear to be the ones responsible for this passing.



I'm not familiar with the whole process. So is it officially approved now? Does the article have a proper way of implementing the directives or is there a X number of time remaining until the law goes live?

This post was edited by Helloween7 on Mar 26 2019 08:33am
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Quote (balrog66 @ 26 Mar 2019 15:26)
Aaand Article 13 passed... barely.

Vote on amendment: 212 for-217 against-24 no vote.

Vote to adopt the copyright directive: 348 for-274 against - 36 no vote.

If you want to see who voted what:
https://juliareda.eu/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/copyrightvote.pdf

Gotta say I'm a bit disappointed, even though many parties in my country voted in favour of freedom on the internet (actually one thing the eurosceptics and environmentalists agree on). Socdems and traditional (Christian) conservatives appear to be the ones responsible for this passing.


very disappointing indeed.

I guess the support from the social democrats and the conservatives comes from the fact that these parties tend to have by far the oldest votership. Imho, it's a generational thing. The older parties, the internet illiterates, dont understand that the internet needs fundamentally different copyright and monetarization schemes than traditional businesses like newspapers. And they dont care that much since their average voters neither understands nor cares about these issues either.

The lobbyists and some leading experts from these mainstream parties of course understand fully well that this bill will pressure small, independent, "alternative" news outlets on the web, or even drive them out of business altogether. The majority of the web illiterates imho didnt understand this, and just went along with their party leadership, and, in turn, the lobbyists.

Quote (Helloween7 @ 26 Mar 2019 15:33)
I'm not familiar with the whole process. So is it officially approved now? Does the article have a proper way of implementing the directives or is there a X number of time remaining until the law goes live?


the national states will have 2 years to implement the directive into national law.

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Quote (dro94 @ 25 Mar 2019 11:52)
Looks like the coup has failed for now...seriously what the fuck is going on?


Seems your PMs are thinking they can push for a new deal... And are spitting on Theresa May, pretty low.
Since they already voted against hard brexit and the agreement, and since EU does not want to negociate another agreement...
The only thing they can do is a... Referendum ?! Wait I'm not sure... Maybe they also voted against this recently ... :rofl:

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Mar 26 2019 08:55am
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Mar 26 2019 02:38pm)
very disappointing indeed.

I guess the support from the social democrats and the conservatives comes from the fact that these parties tend to have by far the oldest votership. Imho, it's a generational thing. The older parties, the internet illiterates, dont understand that the internet needs fundamentally different copyright and monetarization schemes than traditional businesses like newspapers. And they dont care that much since their average voters neither understands nor cares about these issues either.

The lobbyists and some leading experts from these mainstream parties of course understand fully well that this bill will pressure small, independent, "alternative" news outlets on the web, or even drive them out of business altogether. The majority of the web illiterates imho didnt understand this, and just went along with their party leadership, and, in turn, the lobbyists.



the national states will have 2 years to implement the directive into national law.


Do note that EP elections will be soon, and this can be turned over by a new EP if the majority exists.
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Mar 26 2019 08:56am
Quote (balrog66 @ 26 Mar 2019 15:55)
Do note that EP elections will be soon, and this can be turned over by a new EP if the majority exists.


that's what I'm hoping for, but the lobbying machinery in Brussels is strong and will claw and fight against it with everything it got.
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Mar 26 2019 09:08am
another ridiculous decision from brussels against the interests of the people and over the heads of the national states

and then these corporate slaves wonder why they are unpopular and something like brexit happens
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