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Why not?


what you said does not necessarily contain the category of morality. it's like saying if I fail a 315 bench i'm morally good or bad

are you going to address my questions here?

what does guaranteed outcome have to do with anything and why can't we apply good or bad without a guaranteed outcome?
how do we know there are "degrees" of good and bad and what does it depend on?

you state that 'some things we can label with certainty.'

what is certainly good, what is certainly bad, and how do you know this is the case?

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Pointing out why your thought process is faulty is considered desperate? :huh: Ok sure whatever you say.

Guess you will never know. Asking me if the hippo was real is like asking jesus for a news article that he talked with satan in a desert. I told you already you don't get to ask me anything just like you cannot ask any of the bible witnesses.
The test was for you to demonstrate how you arrived at that conclusion. You not only failed to listen to instructions of this test but you also made a number of erroneous assumptions that are nothing more than guesses.

Therefore when you say you found the evidence credible for jesus what you really saying you assumed its credible. Not only do you not have proof your judgement itself cannot be taken seriously.

You are done here. Thanks for proving my point that Christianity is fake.


I for one find it hilarious that you are trying to save face even though, unsurprisingly, your pointless test failed on so many levels. You even lost it and were given 2 violation posts for it.

I already told you how I arrived at the conclusion, you dare better not read it again though otherwise you might post another violation.
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I for one find it hilarious that you are trying to save face even though, unsurprisingly, your pointless test failed on so many levels. You even lost it and were given 2 violation posts for it.

I already told you how I arrived at the conclusion, you dare better not read it again though otherwise you might post another violation.


Wow, I like how you explained the test "failed" with exampes and facts and no assumptions whatsoever.


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what you said does not necessarily contain the category of morality. it's like saying if I fail a 315 bench i'm morally good or bad

are you going to address my questions here?

what does guaranteed outcome have to do with anything and why can't we apply good or bad without a guaranteed outcome?
how do we know there are "degrees" of good and bad and what does it depend on?

you state that 'some things we can label with certainty.'

what is certainly good, what is certainly bad, and how do you know this is the case?


It either contains morality or it does not. There is no maybe category. So which is it? If it does then is the builder right or wrong good or bad?

Don't worry I will answer your questions in time, lets get to the bottom of this one first.
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It either contains morality or it does not. There is no maybe category. So which is it? If it does then is the builder right or wrong good or bad?

Don't worry I will answer your questions in time, lets get to the bottom of this one first.


does the question I asked relating to failing a bench press have moral content? what is this moral content and how do you know it's the case?

I never said "maybe". I already said "what you said does not necessarily contain the category of morality." if you believe your builder scenario contains moral content, can you show how and tell me how you know it is moral content?

if not, are you going to stop stalling and address my questions?
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does the question I asked relating to failing a bench press have moral content? what is this moral content and how do you know it's the case?

I never said "maybe". I already said "what you said does not necessarily contain the category of morality." if you believe your builder scenario contains moral content, can you show how and tell me how you know it is moral content?

if not, are you going to stop stalling and address my questions?


You have not answered my question you repackaged it with another example and deflected it onto me by asking essentially the same thing.
I'll rephrase it for you since you are very reluctant to answer it.
Either the glass contains water or it doesn't and if it does I am asking the nature of that water is it good or bad, right or wrong. Since water isn't an agent It would be classified as immoral but we are talking about a person we can classify it as moral.

Now then is he right or wrong?

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You have not answered my question you repackaged it with another example and deflected it onto me by asking essentially the same thing.
I'll rephrase it for you since you are very reluctant to answer it.
Either the glass contains water or it doesn't and if it does I am asking the nature of that water is it good or bad, right or wrong. Since water isn't an agent It would be classified as immoral but we are talking about a person we can classify it as moral.

Now then is he right or wrong?


you kind've just said a bunch of gibberish. why would we classify water as immoral because it's not an agent?
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you kind've just said a bunch of gibberish. why would we classify water as immoral because it's not an agent?


So water can be moral?
What is gibberish about it? Its the most simplistic analogy I can give you. Either the glass contains water or it doesn't. And if it does what is the nature of that water? Water is analogous to the builder in my initial question.

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So water can be moral?
What is gibberish about it? Its the most simplistic analogy I can give you. Either the glass contains water or it doesn't. And if it does what is the nature of that water? Water is analogous to the builder in my initial question.


you said we would classify water as immoral because it's not an agent, how does this make sense? why would we do this?
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