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Nov 6 2019 06:27pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Nov 6 2019 06:20pm)


It's a pretty worthless claim since "introduced" is a super low bar. Since there's hundreds of congressman who can introduce the charges it would be weird if somebody didn't at least make an attempt during every presidency.

Additionally, just saying "were introduced" doesn't take into account if it was justified. Since Reagan definitely should have been impeached (Iran Contra? Making Olie North take the blame to save Reagan), Nixon would have likely been successful, etc.

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Lol you are a climate denier too?


There's a huge difference between being a climate change denier and being someone who rejects hysteria or pissing away our wealth in short-sighted politicking.

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Nov 6 2019 06:32pm
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There's a huge difference between being a climate change denier and being someone who rejects hysteria or pissing away our wealth in short-sighted politicking.


30 years of nothing and suddenly we are being hysterical for asking for change?
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Nov 6 2019 06:34pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Nov 6 2019 08:21pm)
Lol you are a climate denier too?


No, climate exists.

Did you mean climate change denier? No to that as well.

Taking issue with climate change inc, using brainwashed children as props and pawns, and hysteria about imminent catastrophic climate change, which are being used to try to greatly expand government control and taxation around the world doesn't indicate climate change denial.

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It's a pretty worthless claim since "tried to introduce" is a super low bar.

misquoting and illogical statement.
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Nov 6 2019 06:35pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Nov 6 2019 04:20pm)


How do you define the term "Democrat Party?"

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/dems-impeach-gop-presidents/

You left out some important information:


What's True

Articles of impeachment were introduced against five of the six Republican presidents who have served since President Dwight D. Eisenhower.
What's False

Articles of impeachment were not introduced against President Gerald Ford; a handful of Democratic politicians filed articles of impeachment against President George H. W. Bush Sr. and President Ronald Reagan but their efforts did not receive the backing of the entire Democratic party; and the impeachment efforts against President Richard Nixon received bipartisan support.


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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 6 2019 06:28pm)
There's a huge difference between being a climate change denier and being someone who rejects hysteria or pissing away our wealth in short-sighted politicking.


Scientists - This is definitely happening, we need alternatives
Politicians - Let's wait for the data
-10 years later-
Scientists - Guys, we were pretty sure 10 years ago, now we're DEFINITELY SURE. We need to fund alternatives!
Politicians - I don't believe you
-10 years later-
Scientists - Okay guys, we've put it off so long we need to really ramp up our efforts to make up for lost time
Politicians - I dunno, that's a lot of investment
Scientists - That's why we should have started 10 years ago....
Media: Now for our two guests, one is a scientist with a dozen published papers who is an expert in the field, and the other is Joe who accepted a check from a think tank to smear scientists
-10 years later-
Scientists - Okay, we're in the end game. We need billions of dollars and massive cuts or we might as well do nothing.
Black XistenZ - Why are you being so hysterical? We can't invest that much! You just can't think of the future!
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Nov 6 2019 06:39pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Nov 6 2019 06:34pm)
misquoting and illogical statement.


See my edit. "Introduced" is a low bar

Additionally, just saying "were introduced" doesn't take into account if it was justified. Since Reagan definitely should have been impeached (Iran Contra? Making Olie North take the blame to save Reagan), Nixon would have likely been successful, etc. It's expected that there would be more attempts to impeach the party that wears their corruption on their sleeves.
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Nov 6 2019 06:46pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Nov 7 2019 11:36am)
Scientists - This is definitely happening, we need alternatives
Politicians - Let's wait for the data
-10 years later-
Scientists - Guys, we were pretty sure 10 years ago, now we're DEFINITELY SURE. We need to fund alternatives!
Politicians - I don't believe you
-10 years later-
Scientists - Okay guys, we've put it off so long we need to really ramp up our efforts to make up for lost time
Politicians - I dunno, that's a lot of investment
Scientists - That's why we should have started 10 years ago....
Media: Now for our two guests, one is a scientist with a dozen published papers who is an expert in the field, and the other is Joe who accepted a check from a think tank to smear scientists
-10 years later-
Scientists - Okay, we're in the end game. We need billions of dollars and massive cuts or we might as well do nothing.
Black XistenZ - Why are you being so hysterical? We can't invest that much! You just can't think of the future!


Factual post.
The boomers have had 30 years to do something, we have had enough.
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Quote (Plaguefear @ 7 Nov 2019 01:32)
30 years of nothing and suddenly we are being hysterical for asking for change?


that has been the appeasers' approach for a couple of years now. those who don't want to look completely foolish and ignorant by outright denying the facts and science, just call it 'hysteria' and suggest that decisive action would be 'pissing away our wealth' (while at the same time ignoring the overwhelmingly negative financial impact unmitigated climate will have) - that way they can claim not to be science deniers, while still embracing their political side's narrative.
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Nov 6 2019 06:48pm
Quote (fender @ Nov 7 2019 11:46am)
that has been the appeasers' approach for a couple of years now. those who don't want to look completely foolish and ignorant by outright denying the facts and science, just call it 'hysteria' and suggest that decisive action would be 'pissing away our wealth' (while at the same time ignoring the overwhelmingly negative financial impact unmitigated climate will have) - that way they can claim not to be science deniers, while still embracing their political side's narrative.


Meanwhile here in Australia the great barrier reef is on life support, it supports 70,000 jobs and a lot of income.
Half our country is on fire and you cant insure homes north of the equator.
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