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Jan 6 2020 04:00pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Jan 6 2020 03:46pm)
https://www.yahoo.com/news/dracula-queer-always-bbc-series-173600853.html

we've officially gotten to a place where the LGBTQ+ community even demands representation of homicidal maniac serial killers.

completely ignorring that symbolism of Dracula as a night living social pariah would have been done to denigrate gays. now in a more progressive era where homosexuality isn't PC to show as a counterculture faux pas practice, one could almost see the blatantly straight Dracula as a product of PC culture, rather than in contrast with it.

I can only imagine if a few chilling scenes were included with Dracula raping and feeding on male victims, another LGBTQ+ blogger would be writing about how this perpetuates stereotypes of gays as predatory.

can't we just enjoy a fictional bloodsucking maniac for what he is, a non human fictional character deeply restricted by centuries of tropes cemented in literature. each new writer who takes up the mantle of this story has always changed little and played within the lines for the most part, and its a big reason this story doesnt get stale despite it's constant doing over.


You can find an article being mad about anything. Is it really fair to attribute this to "the lgbtq+ community"?

Honestly I wish we had more explicit acknowledgement of Dracula as a high status person who maintains his existence only through draining the resources of those below him. He is a Count after all, he wasnt a social pariah, he was nobility.
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Jan 6 2020 04:34pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jan 6 2020 04:00pm)
You can find an article being mad about anything. Is it really fair to attribute this to "the lgbtq+ community"?

Honestly I wish we had more explicit acknowledgement of Dracula as a high status person who maintains his existence only through draining the resources of those below him. He is a Count after all, he wasnt a social pariah, he was nobility.


No it's not fair, i worded that poorly. but did mitigate it somewhat by saying that another LGBTQ author would complain about gay predator stereotyping. we could of course discuss lack of unity in the LGBTQ community compared to the narrative that it's more unified, but that's pretty tangential and hard to quantify due to a lot of polling biases among such a marginalized group.

as to Dracula that's a core tenant of his character. his Count reputation is that of a reclusive but respected lord, yet he's constantly plagued by whispers due to his nighttime behavior. lines like "the respected count dracula lives there, very rich lord, but only seen at night for some reason and his serfs whisper of strange happenings."

this draws from the real life Dracula, who transitioned from a run of the mill lord to a feared and violent ruler decorating his lands with heads on spikes.

I think it would be interesting to explore Dracula as a bisexual character. less interested in base instincts of sex, and more with utter control of others. using men, women, and everything inbetween as an apex predator, both from a feeding and sexual standpoint. it's an archetype i've seen a few times, one example being Oberyn Martel from asoif. So alpha that his sexual energy can't be absorbed by a single gender.

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Jan 6 2020 04:50pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jan 6 2020 02:00pm)
You can find an article being mad about anything. Is it really fair to attribute this to "the lgbtq+ community"?

Honestly I wish we had more explicit acknowledgement of Dracula as a high status person who maintains his existence only through draining the resources of those below him. He is a Count after all, he wasnt a social pariah, he was nobility.


Probably not. Most gay people I know couldn't care less. If you have 100 gay people in a room, I imagine only 1 or 2 are the annoying caricatures that we pretend are representative. Why are we reading/writing articles about this? Why can't we just ignore these lunatics and let them scream in a vacuum?
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Jan 6 2020 04:52pm
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Probably not. Most gay people I know couldn't care less. If you have 100 gay people in a room, I imagine only 1 or 2 are the annoying caricatures that we pretend are representative. Why are we reading/writing articles about this? Why can't we just ignore these lunatics and let them scream in a vacuum?

yahoo put it on the front page
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Jan 6 2020 04:59pm
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yahoo put it on the front page


Don't click the article. It only encourages this bad behavior. Yahoo does it because cucks like us want to read it and feel "outraged."
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Jan 6 2020 05:02pm
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yahoo put it on the front page


Who goes to Yahoo? What is this? 2002?

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Jan 6 2020 05:05pm
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Who goes to Yahoo? What is this? 2002?


https://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/205712
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Quote (thundercock @ Jan 6 2020 04:50pm)
Probably not. Most gay people I know couldn't care less. If you have 100 gay people in a room, I imagine only 1 or 2 are the annoying caricatures that we pretend are representative. Why are we reading/writing articles about this? Why can't we just ignore these lunatics and let them scream in a vacuum?


i like the series, so naturally the title caught my eye.

but in any case Duffman years back started posting stories of non-representative outrage. so i called him the duffington post, and this thread was born.

so while the topics are by themselves interesting, overall the thread topic is non-representative rage. mainly trans topics if we did a strawpoll im sure.

i find nonrepresentative rage to be fascinating, really just the idea of the vast minority that reads them and say "finally, someone said it".

Quote (Thor123422 @ Jan 6 2020 05:02pm)
Who goes to Yahoo? What is this? 2002?


me lol. my web filter blocks a lot of sites but not yahoo, and i think what they put on the front page is really funny sometimes.
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Jan 6 2020 05:06pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Jan 6 2020 03:05pm)
i like the series, so naturally the title caught my eye.

but in any case Duffman years back started posting stories of non-representative outrage. so i called him the duffington post, and this thread was born.

so while the topics are by themselves interesting, overall the thread topic is non-representative rage. mainly trans topics if we did a strawpoll im sure.

i find nonrepresentative rage to be fascinating, really just the idea of the vast minority that reads them and say "finally, someone said it".



THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD!!!!!!!
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Jan 6 2020 05:07pm
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THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD!!!!!!!


i feel bad about a lot of things that still make me laugh, hard. :P
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