excuse me but all citizen have the right to hold weapons allright i understand that: my question is; is there a precise reason for that ?

because actually if it's absolute right without even a designated enemy you should have right to get rockets launchers, C4, and full auto, isnt it ? Basically everything... But then, does the national security have the right to stop you if you are a billionaire and you just bought a nuclear solution ?

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Dec 7 2015 01:20pm

He said it in his post... the point of the 2nd amendment is to defend yourself against the GOVERNMENT. So if they have ARs... we should have ARs.

they also have unmanned combat aerial vehicles.
new personally programmable attack drones soon to be available in walmart i can only assume.
Its every americans right to own one , maybe these can manufactured for a more affordable price compared to tanks or fighter jets?

Better off with a real weapon of war and not something that is just really really good at target practice.

It is perfectly fine.

I can't wait to eventually buy some drones and repurpose them. (Not explosives or anything, there's just a lot of cool things you could do with a drone for battlefield type shit)
Gotta equalize the playing field a little bit
Your example was poor, at least the frenchie used some legitimate examples of limitations.
The whole civilian drone thing really excites me.


I am willing to accept limiting it at explosives and wmd's for the time being.
The potential for abuse and destruction from a rifle and the potential for abuse and destruction from large explosives and bombs are two largely different things.

I'm not saying it's what would or would not have been the original intentions, but it is a reasonable limitation for now. Banning the AR platform is not reasonable.


And yes, if I could make the call right now I would get rid of the full auto regulations and make them as easily obtainable as any other firearm. Same with short barreled rifles and sb shotguns.

This post was edited by Tylr on Dec 7 2015 10:53pm

A tank for each family?

That's a great way of reducing car emissions. Plus we won't have to worry about Volkswagen cheating with them. Gun violence drops down and we could carry out building demolitions by using volunteers. Talk about world of tanks.

This post was edited by Neptunus on Dec 8 2015 07:21am

traditional weapons of war would be fairly useless in a ground war scenario of govt vs population milita. Imagine trying to secure a rural farm area with a few hunting rifles per farm, a few farms per square mile, a few hundred square miles per county, multiple counties. Rural farming areas would have to be swept the traditional way, boots, guns, marches, etc. So really training at small arms is a great way for some people to learn militia defense, not places like New York though.

A better rifle would due, not one that splinters if you hit somebody with it or jams if the slightest particle of dust gets into the machinery. Or the big shitty spring in the back stock buffer tube that quits functioning under the slightest of duress. Drop to the ground and your buttstock hits hard? No more weapon.

The AK-47 is ten times the weapon the AR-15 is. Newer AK variations forget about it. When we were deployed in Saudi Arabia before the second Iraq War we had to buy big jumbo condoms to try to encapsulate our carbines in because the dust was so bad there and the guns just didn't fucking work when exposed to the slightest bit of elements. An AK can be dug up out of a mud pit and it would fire out rounds....it only has like seven moving pieces. The AR has a million tiny little plastic parts...even the parts on other guns which are metal are plastic or fiberglass on the AR.

It is a real POS for war fighting. Fun toys though. Great for target practice.

Side note, I've been seeing a lot of drones overhead lately.



I think about those poor fuckers in the Euro Maiden in Ukraine after their fraudulent election. They were fighting with pipes and shields and were fighting a Russian-equipped military apparatus and they prevailed. Look at the US occupation of Baghdad. I question your reasoning in this area.

Plus our volunteer Army would never turn their rifles on Americans.



My MOS in the army was Tank Crewman and I loved it. 67 tons of rolling death.

This post was edited by Skinned on Dec 8 2015 07:35am

I'd prefer a howitzer. Like a 155.