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Nov 6 2020 05:12pm
Quote (Mangix @ Nov 6 2020 06:11pm)
I'm accidentally lumping all of them together at this point. His debt, his campaigns debt, its all basically the same animal of welching.
Its his campaign.
But afaik they backed out of recount request because it was contradictory to his arguments in other states.


they still cant see that he is trying to do one last grift before hes out. fucking delusional
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Nov 6 2020 05:13pm
Quote (Budgeting @ Nov 6 2020 03:07pm)
i do agree with you but the last 4 yrs have shown you that there are people willing to consolidate that power at the executive branch which is essentially what house and senate repubs let trump do for his entire presidency. you say that like you are all for localization of authority and governance but you are a frequent supporter of trump. everything he did in the last 4 yrs is quite opposite to what you find interesting.


My assumption is you're talking about federal courts. Those serve at the pleasure of the executive branch, by appointment. That's not "consolidation of power". That's simply the executive branch doing it's job. Obama, W Bush, Clinton, HW Bush, and Raegan all did the same.

You sound very young.
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Nov 6 2020 05:16pm
Quote (vildmeddans @ 7 Nov 2020 00:08)
How can it be Wisconsin?


If you line up all the states by Biden's winning margin, from highest to lowest, and add up their electoral votes along the way, the tipping point state is the one that gets him across 270 electoral votes. Think of 538's snake chart.
Given the number of outstanding votes in Pennsylvania (112k) and where they are coming from (mostly Philly), it's easy to see that Biden will win PA by more than 0.6% in the end, which is his current margin in Wisconsin. Similarly, it's easy to see that Arizona will end up really close when the outstanding and moderately Trump-leaning votes (226k left) are counted.


You end up with this map:


Note that Biden would lose the contingent election in the House if the race ended at a 269-269 tie, so he indeed needs either Wisconsin or Arizona to get over the finish line. The narrative is flipped because Wisconsin was called so early while Pennsylvania takes forever, but going by what will be the final margins, the tipping point is gonna be WI or AZ.



tldr: the tipping point state is defined by the order of the states' final margins, not by the order in which they were finished counting.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Nov 6 2020 05:18pm
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Quote (InsaneBobb @ Nov 7 2020 12:13am)
My assumption is you're talking about federal courts. Those serve at the pleasure of the executive branch, by appointment. That's not "consolidation of power". That's simply the executive branch doing it's job. Obama, W Bush, Clinton, HW Bush, and Raegan all did the same.

You sound very young.



Oh he said he sounded young!! Wish i could insert a gif of those black fellas screaming
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 7 2020 12:16am)
If you line up all the states by Biden's winning margin, from highest to lowest, and add up their electoral votes along the way, the tipping point state is the one that gets him across 270 electoral votes. Think of 538's snake chart.
Given the number of outstanding votes in Pennsylvania (112k) and where they are coming from (mostly Philly), it's easy to see that Biden will win PA by more than 0.6% in the end, which is his current margin in Wisconsin. Similarly, it's easy to see that Arizona will end up really close when the outstanding and moderately Trump-leaning votes (226k left) are counted.


You end up with this map:
https://www.270towin.com/maps/Dz2An.png

Note that Biden would lose the contingent election in the House if the race ended at a 269-269 tie, so he indeed needs either Wisconsin or Arizona to get over the finish line. The narrative is flipped because Wisconsin was called so early while Pennsylvania takes forever, but going by what will be the final margins, the tipping point is gonna be WI or AZ.



interesting tbh i havent been thinking of it that way
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Nov 6 2020 05:19pm
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Ben Shapiro's wife is going to come before the Nevada results.
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Nov 6 2020 05:19pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Nov 6 2020 06:13pm)
My assumption is you're talking about federal courts. Those serve at the pleasure of the executive branch, by appointment. That's not "consolidation of power". That's simply the executive branch doing it's job. Obama, W Bush, Clinton, HW Bush, and Raegan all did the same.

You sound very young.


i am not talking about federal courts.
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Nov 6 2020 05:21pm
Quote (Santara @ Nov 7 2020 12:19am)
Seen on Twitter:

Ben Shapiro's wife is going to come before the Nevada results.



this deserves all the praise
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Nov 6 2020 05:22pm
Quote (Santara @ Nov 6 2020 06:19pm)
Seen on Twitter:

Ben Shapiro's wife is going to come before the Nevada results.


seen on twitter

the only way for trump to get to 270 is to lose 50 pounds
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Nov 6 2020 05:22pm
Quote (Budgeting @ Nov 6 2020 04:56pm)
man, how idiotic are you? you asked for what crimes and mueller indicated 10 cases of clear obstruction of justice that would warrant a charge.


I didn’t, but that’s okay mate. Nor is that what the Mueller report stated.

It specifically said that the report did not conclude that the President committed a crime, however it also did not exonerate him from the obstruction charge. It laid out 11 instances that one could possibly argue was obstruction, however followed that up with saying “ there were difficult legal issues that would need to be resolved, in order to reach a conclusion that the crime of obstruction of justice was committed by Trump.” So, he said that it could warrant a charge, not would, & then declined to prosecute.

TLDR: Nothing’s going to happen with that
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