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Quote (Plaguefear @ 17 Oct 2019 09:29)
Why would anyone like any healthcare plan over universal medical coverage?


Just look at the NHS in the UK as an example of a single-payer system. Medicare4all will cover the standard stuff, but it sure as hell wont provide top-notch healthcare for everyone, simply because the costs will already be astronomically in the standardstuff-only version.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 17 2019 07:22pm)
Just look at the NHS in the UK as an example of a single-payer system. Medicare4all will cover the standard stuff, but it sure as hell wont provide top-notch healthcare for everyone, simply because the costs will already be astronomically in the standardstuff-only version.


So how would adding in private health cover as a middle man, and a layer of people who's entire job is to try to deny any possible claims going to make anything cheaper or better?
You are simply redirecting the possible pool of money for health care through a rat maze with each little rat taking his own bite on the way through.
I live in australia where private health cover often ends up shittier than our public system.
Also. america has the most expensive health care on the planet.. Shit you pay thousands for can cost 80 bucks here.

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So how would adding in private health cover as a middle man, and a layer of people who's entire job is to try to deny any possible claims going to make anything cheaper or better?
You are simply redirecting the possible pool of money for health care through a rat maze with each little rat taking his own bite on the way through.
I live in australia where private health cover often ends up shittier than our public system.
Also. america has the most expensive health care on the planet.. Shit you pay thousands for can cost 80 bucks here.


A one-size-fits-all system just wont be flexible enough to meet the needs of everyone. And again: the costs will be astronomically in even the most basic version of medicare4all. There definitely will be attempts to deny claims or limit them in scope.
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A one-size-fits-all system just wont be flexible enough to meet the needs of everyone. And again: the costs will be astronomically in even the most basic version of medicare4all. There definitely will be attempts to deny claims or limit them in scope.


Odd that we manage it in australia even whilst subsidising private health and hospitals more than our public system.
Its simple: Allow generics, 7.5% tax levy.
Done.
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Quote (Plaguefear @ Oct 17 2019 06:24am)
Odd that we manage it in australia even whilst subsidising private health and hospitals more than our public system.
Its simple: Allow generics, 7.5% tax levy.
Done.


They do it where he lives too. I've had surgery in both places btw. Pro tip: can't sue the military for malpractice when enlisted.

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They do it where he lives too. I've had surgery in both places btw. Pro tip: can't sue the military for malpractice when enlisted.

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Considering the quality level of military doctors, that's a real shame.
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Quote (Plaguefear @ Oct 17 2019 12:29am)
Why would anyone like any healthcare plan over universal medical coverage?


Because it offers more flexibility, better care, is cheaper, etc.
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That painting above the fireplace is my absolute favorite, I almost made a thread about it yesterday.
It formerly hung above the mantle in the oval office from 1795 until Barbara bush stole the original for GW's private dallas gallery.





If we look at the secretary Handcock's notes during the signing he states the founders were "saluting and hailing columbia, hailing the chief." This was America's salute before the cuck salute became regulation shortly before ww2.
Another interesting thing about it that google has recently scrubbed its search engine of it. You used to be able to reverse image search it and get hundreds of higher resolution ones (2015) but recently when i tried google could only produce a few thumbnails and watermarked ones.

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