heard immunity like the rest of viruses in the past. they dont want that. its not about covid its about something else

Should have been focusing on the elderly and people with obvious health conditions from the very start. The handling of this virus in this country has been complete horse shit and we could have saved 70% of what we have already spent. And after all of this shit we have Biden, who ran on having his own covid plan, come out and say there’s nothing we can do for 3 months. This administration can suck my dick lol

1. 110 Million cases? Sounds slowed to me.
2. Useless point. "Yeah, we know masks don't work well enough to stop the spread, but um... Mask up!" If condoms had a 60% efficacy rate, nobody would bother using condoms.
3. Precisely. And "flattening the curve" has been a constant for nearly a year now. When's the "flattening" stop?

You are not willing to utilize logic. Lockdowns never stopped where I'm at. Mask mandates have never stopped. Yet the spread is higher today than it was at the end of Spring 2020 or the early fall 2020. Where's the curve flattened? Where's the "prevention"?

Lockdowns didn't work. Mask mandates that now indicate double masking is preferable when the added efficacy is only 6%, yet the risks to your respiratory system is high? Yeah.

Continue being a science denier, Thor. The virus isn't killing children in any numbers that're statistically meaningful. The virus isn't killing the working age population in any numbers higher than the average cold or flu.

No matter how many times you try to justify your position, we all remember you defending Cuomo sending covid-positive patients to nursing homes, killing over ten thousand elderly patients as "helping hospitals" when there was an unused field hospital that could have housed them, as well as hotels and an unused navy medical ship. You've justified and supported every terrible decision, and continue to support meaningless risk mitigation efforts that've not been proven to have ANY notable positive impact.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Feb 16 2021 11:17pm

It has literally never been about totally stopping the spread.

So here's the thing. If you just let spread happen uncontrolled you end up with total infection after about 2 months.

If you end up with total infection then you end up shoving everybody who is going to be hospitalized into hospitals at the same time within the second month (exponential spread, most of it happens in the second half).

If you do that, then 99% of people who need ICU care or other emergency medical care during that time die if their issue is serious enough. That's not just due to Covid, everybody who needs ICU care dies. 40 year old has a heart issue? Dead. 20 year old in a car accident? Also dead. 50 year old father of 3 having pains in his chest? Sorry, he didn't get aspirin in the ER because literally every doctor has worked 48 hour shifts and they still didn't have capacity to see him.

So in addition to the 6 million people who will die from Covid directly, you are also looking at several more hundreds of thousands of deaths due to lack of immediate medical care.

The best part? If we had invested in contact tracing, testing, and had a president who encouraged mask compliance we probably wouldn't have had to shut down longer than a few weeks. Nobody, even the doctors and infectious disease specialists, want to shut down. Shut downs are a last resort when the more preferable options I just listed aren't carried out by the government.

I find it hilarious that you first say I'm contradicting the CDC, then when I show you that I got my information directly from the CDC you start spouting pseudo science. Now you're repeating lies that you know aren't true, and I know you know because I've corrected and you've conceded on them in the past.

Stay mad, and stay dishonest with that lizard brain.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Feb 16 2021 11:24pm

The CDC released all the way back in October that covid is spread through aerosolized vapor you exhale. AKA, it's an airborne virus. And Taiwan medical researchers said the exact same thing to the WHO all the way back in December 2019.

You've not "disproven" anything. You're justifying how cutting 60% of the virus out of the air somehow "slows the spread" when it literally has NOT been proven to slow anything. The only medical studies conducted on real populations that indicate lockdowns OR masks are going to slow or stop the spread are when there's little or no percentage of the population currently infected. That's it. There's tens of millions infected in the US, there are over a hundred million infected worldwide. The bug's out, buddy. The time to forget the "mask mandates" and "lockdowns" and start paying attention to what those of us who have been following the real science since day 1 have been saying: Open up, incentivize the at risk and elderly to self-quarantine. Notify people of the potential benefits of continuing to wear masks, as well as the risks of masks, especially dirty reusables, and get on getting on.

Also, fire every teacher who isn't in the direct at-risk group who refuses to go back to in-school classes. These are "essential workers" and "heroes"? The minimum wage Safeway Cashier is working in person, every day, conducting thousands of transactions, with thousands of people. What the fuck is "heroic" or "essential" about teachers who refuse to go to work and still get paid?

I linked this exact document and based my posts on it.

You are apparently not capable of reading the document because I did not contradict it.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Feb 16 2021 11:36pm

You linked the document and then claimed it said things it didn't say.

Just as you've claimed that "masks prevent 60% of the virus from getting through" somehow magically means "you won't get/spread it".

Your posts are simply bullshit, we all know they're bullshit. And it's very telling that even though you've been wrong, consistently, regarding covid and the results of risk-mitigation measures being used, you're still posting.

You're a science denier. Simply stated.

How about you actually read the document, because it explicitly says most of the spread is due to close contact. It's actually a big bolded section of the document and specifically says "The epidemiology of SARS-CoV-2 indicates that most infections are spread through close contact, not airborne transmission".

You are just wrong, and it's obvious you haven't actually read these documents because they explicitly say the opposite of what you are saying. I am literally looking at them right now.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/more/scientific-brief-sars-cov-2.html

and if you can't even acknowledge that much it means you aren't willing to actually discuss anything on this subject. This is not up for debate, the document is right here.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Feb 16 2021 11:42pm

So the weak would die and the strong would survive? Sounds like nature to me brotha...