Quote (fender @ Jan 6 2020 06:07pm)
pretty sure no one in iran is happy with the crippling sanctions imposed on them by america, or the fact that practically every political, religious, or military leader is just a tweet away from being assassinated.
as much as i hate the prospect of even more shitty regimes having access to nuclear weapons, i can certainly understand the rationale behind iran's desire to have them. considering america's history and presence in the region, only mutually assured destruction seems to be an effective deterrent. they don't seem to care about treaties or democratically elected leaders.
for those wondering how iran became a shitty authoritarian theocracy, maybe a little history lesson could help. i'd suggest starting in 1953...
And the United States emerged as a superpower as a result of German racism and the world war Germany started. Hard to reach 1953 without 1939.
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jan 6 2020 06:38pm)
There are many problems that directly stem from those events even today. The history of WWI is far more interesting than WW2 IMO. Much further reaching consequences (as one of its consequences was WWII.) It was the death throes of the old world and its monarchs.
I find it interesting that you cite a huge problem originating from the US providing weapons then conclude that the middle east being free from us would be a problem. Radical Islam for example was a direct result of our own pushing for the radicalization of the region so they would resist Russia. Seems to me that the long term problems have largely been our creation.
I think we need to be careful ascribing too much influence to neo-colonial powers and too little agency to complex indigenous movements. Wahhabism as a movement goes back centuries, as does it's alliance with the House of Saud.
This post was edited by bogie160 on Jan 6 2020 09:12pm