Almost all of the people voting in these kind of polls have no earthly idea how election outcomes are determined, if they aren't just voting to be funny. Raw vote levels, turnout dynamics, ground game operation, micro-targeting... these things go soaring ten feet over their heads. The arguments for Trump as a viable general election candidate seem to be as sophisticated as "I just saw a poll that showed him tied" or "but he can manage the economy like a business!"

I'm thinking about this Wall thing and Trump is right....not on immigration or on this issue, or this particular problem.

Trump's critics are panning him for proposing a wall between us and Mexico as our national project. His critics say that this wall will cost hundreds of billions of dollars to construct. Why does a big wall, something that China was able to accomplish on a much larger scale with much less technological innovation including all important logistics, much longer ago, unable to be accomplished by Americans?

Has capitalism castrated American society so severely that we cannot tackle large national projects anymore? With this mentality important benchmarks like the US Highway system would never exist, or the Hoover Dam, which cost Americans much more than a Mexican wall in blood and treasure. But there was a Dream alive in the United States back then, and it is obvious by this conversation, that our ideals are based on cost-benefit analysis in dollars that we print, and it is clear that we're living in a wholly irrational system that can accomplish nothing larger than ecological disasters and new ghettos, apartheids, and slums.

Trump is a leader with vision leading a bunch of moles. I disagree with his politics in a lot of areas, but he is genuine ubermensch.

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Trump 2016

...it will be interesting to see if his refusal to correct the " Obama is a non-American Muslim FEMA camp supporter " question at his press conference will affect his poll numbers .

The man has character that people love to see, regardless how inept he comes off. His fall will come but I'd be surprised if the circus starts winding down solely after that.

Sure his dream is to build a wall much like China wanted to build a wall. First you need to look at the purpose and the spirit of the reason. The Chinese were building a wall for defense something they could at least have some public support for, defense can be seen as a positive reason. Trump's reason isn't defense, it's simply to seal others from the good life that we have. Because there is an imaginary line drawn on a map that says on this side you must starve and watch your children die. And on this side you can prosper. isn't a good enough reason for humanities sake.

Trumps vision comes through the filters of elitism, racism, and bigotry the only uber thing about him is his bullshit

Second If the capitalists and we know Trump to be king Capitalist. Would promise to hire skilled tradesmen to build the wall and to pay them federal prevailing wages then the country would see some benefit in prosperity from the work it would generate. But under a republican leader I don't see that scenario.

Fox news is retarded for giving him so much coverage. It'll be impossible for them to a put a lid on his PR now that its started.

trump ftw yo

Trump is going to destroy the Republicans - I think he might just be getting divine assistance.

He won't change much, that kind of thing is exactly what you expect from him and its the kind of thing that got him his base in the first place