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Oct 19 2012 11:42am
Quote (Voyaging @ Oct 19 2012 12:36pm)
I'd like to know what is.

Being a loser pothead like yourself?



And yet another personal attack attacking someone's use of personal attacks  :wacko:


Ad hominem will get you nowhere.
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Oct 19 2012 11:46am
Quote (Voyaging @ Oct 19 2012 12:36pm)
I'd like to know what is.

Being a loser pothead like yourself?



And yet another personal attack attacking someone's use of personal attacks  :wacko:





Quit fucking trying.
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Oct 19 2012 12:39pm
Quote (girl0ngirl @ 19 Oct 2012 03:19)
Enough with the personal attacks. Not a single post by anyone other than me attempted to debate this guy. You cannot give your feelings about the topic and the poster and think you've done some good. It's actually offensive to attack something without back it up. In a debate nobody is wrong, yet everyone here has called him and myself idiots. Personality disorders? Nice way to simplify things, moron.

Eti I would give up on this place. Their dopamine has been rewired into knots with their videogames, they have no idea what makes them happy if learning isn't one of those things. This negative energy is unwarranted and probably best left alone.


You make a good point about debate, but I fear they will not get it... I may develop later.
I will never give up, Cannabist found The Present thanks to my endurance (and his curiosity of course), and I am sure other truth seekers will find it later.
I may give up answering to the personal attacks, but I have to restore the truth when they spread lies.

Quote (Voyaging @ 19 Oct 2012 03:23)
Because I've been in really shitty situations and have seen others in them. Want me to demonstrate?


I understand your preception of the present moment can make it bad sometimes... Actually some bad things happens to everyone, it is part of the balance (part of life...). The way you percieve this bad things can change with the conscience of the "cosmic" balance. Everything physical is balanced (by truth/life/god/the present moment, call it how you want), it is the law of Newton.
That said, our perfect spirits does NOT have to be balanced, you can be fulfilled all the time if you free your mind (stop think when you do not need... most of the time) and live 100% in the present moment.
I do not say it is easy, I am not there yet, but that is the purpose of my life (and all life...), the last step in human being evolution... We now have all the tools to overcome the animal realm and live as spiritual beings.

I lived myself a lot of "shitty" situations, my old brother was sent to psychiatric hospital by my parents when I was 10 years old... Their discussions was not funny when he was back home, you can trust me about this... He talked often talked about killing them... And he finally killed himself.
It does not change the fact that the present moment is eternal and perfect.

Quote (girl0ngirl @ 19 Oct 2012 03:29)
A debate is not for convincing somebody. It's about teaching each other, you have never experienced one obviously. Also Im living in a world where our individual minds create subjective experiences. Where is objective reality written down?? I know a bit about neuroscience, im young and still learning but its nice to try n understand the chemicals you ingest. Playing video games is not Mic different from smoking meth, both trick your brain into pumping dopamine right? How else could you feel good staring at useless lights?


Good point again :)
About drugs, I could add something : eat a lot of chocolate is exactly the same (feeling for your brain) than smoking weed.
I will go eat now (not a lot of chocolate hehe), I will answer the rest later.

This post was edited by Eti_fr on Oct 19 2012 12:41pm
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I understand your preception of the present moment can make it bad sometimes... Actually some bad things happens to everyone, it is part of the balance (part of life...). The way you percieve this bad things can change with the conscience of the "cosmic" balance. Everything physical is balanced (by truth/life/god/the present moment, call it how you want), it is the law of Newton.
That said, our perfect spirits does NOT have to be balanced, you can be fulfilled all the time if you free your mind (stop think when you do not need... most of the time) and live 100% in the present moment.
I do not say it is easy, I am not there yet, but that is the purpose of my life (and all life...), the last step in human being evolution... We now have all the tools to overcome the animal realm and live as spiritual beings.

I lived myself a lot of "shitty" situations, my old brother was sent to psychiatric hospital by my parents when I was 10 years old... Their discussions was not funny when he was back home, you can trust me about this... He talked often talked about killing them... And he finally killed himself.
It does not change the fact that the present moment is eternal and perfect.

:thumbsup: :hug:


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I understand your preception of the present moment can make it bad sometimes... Actually some bad things happens to everyone, it is part of the balance (part of life...). The way you percieve this bad things can change with the conscience of the "cosmic" balance. Everything physical is balanced (by truth/life/god/the present moment, call it how you want), it is the law of Newton.



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Oct 19 2012 04:04pm
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I'd like to know what is.

This is a great question. If you press this question and actually get an answer, I predict you will get "nothing will ever convince me otherwise".
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Oct 19 2012 05:08pm
Quote (Voyaging @ 19 Oct 2012 15:32)
I have learned nothing from you ever in your posts on this forum.

I have contributed plenty of logic and reason in my posts. The fact that you center on the fact that I call you a dumbass (which you are) does not negate my reasoned arguments.

I also like that this entire post of ridiculing personal attacks was a personal attack (as was nearly every other post of yours).

Go kill yourself.



We can begin by noting that dopamine is a neurotransmitter with multiple functions.

We can further examine the fact that methamphetamine and video games have vastly different effects on dopamine in the brain, both in kind and in degree.


Do you realize what you write ? Maybe read again ?
Please open your mind and respect yourself and your human brothers and sisters.
Understand why I call you "blinded" ? I fear you will not sadly...

Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ 19 Oct 2012 17:22)
...21 years as a clinical therapist in substance abuse . Just stop...!


Oh, I understand you better now.
Did you ever realized the therapists are actually the most crazy people in the clinics ?

Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ 19 Oct 2012 17:29)
...coming from someone who is almost 30 years old and still promotes marijuana use in his profile on a gaming site populated with a good percentage of children you'll pardon me if I never take your opinions on addiction with anything but a grain of salt .


Did you ever try the drugs you prescribe to childrens ?
Did you ever try marijauana ?

I know what I am talking about, my mother is taking drugs prescribed by a therapists, and I can tell you she is now addicted and the side effects are NOT good.
She almost kill me and herself last time we took the car together... She has big lost of memory...

Quote (girl0ngirl @ 19 Oct 2012 18:29)
Why so personal? Do you not understand how to communicate? Nobody cares about your feelings of others. You know a few will agree cuz groupthink but to anyone else that is such a useless post... Attack the posts not the poster... Honestly I'm still waiting for something to be said. If you think anyone is wrong then just state 'your wrong' and proceed to typing productive post. Or let the thread die  :zzz:

Is this ment to be sarcastic, or no?
Five Common Sense Tips :(from mods)

1. Know what you are talking about and bring proof and backup to prove your points
2. Don't become angry and upset if someone disagree's with you, this is a debate forum so prove your point ! Generally there are is no right or wrong because they are mere opinions
3. Keep it clean, too often someone disagrees and the user will turn to flames and curses to "prove" their points. You can debate and discuss effectivley without being rude and ignorant.
4. RELAX AND HAVE FUN !


I could not explain it better.

Quote (Voyaging @ 19 Oct 2012 19:36)
I'd like to know what is.

Being a loser pothead like yourself?



And yet another personal attack attacking someone's use of personal attacks  :wacko:


Think about it twice, you ask a guy to kill himself, then he answers relax and have fun... and he is the one attacking you ? Your logic is very strange.
To answer your question, the present moment is.
I do not have to say more, but I will develop so you can maybe begin to understand... The present moment is the only thing that REALY exists. Live the present moment (open your mind... stop thinking about yesterday and tomorrow) is the only real satisfaction.
Remember : You are more than your mind, you are the eternal perfect spirit listening to it.
The thoughts from the mind are hidding the present moment to your spirit.
You can live the present moment by opening to your senses, once your spirit will listen to your senses you will be connected to the present moment.

Here is a video I found today that could help you understand the eternity of life :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN2SQ4m7M04

Here is one something I would like everyone to think about :
When you write something (anywhere), ask yourself before you post : what if I was actually writing this for myself ? It is actually what you are doing in a way.


This post was edited by Eti_fr on Oct 19 2012 05:28pm
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Oct 19 2012 08:50pm
Good advice. I love your English :hail:
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Oct 19 2012 09:46pm
I lol'd at "the bible uses science"

Modern science did not come to be until galileo etc

The bible was written over 2 thousand years ago

There is no science in religion.
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Quote (Impose @ Oct 19 2012 09:46pm)
I lol'd at "the bible uses science"

Modern science did not come to be until galileo etc

The bible was written over 2 thousand years ago

There is no science in religion.


Buddhism is the most scientific religion there is.
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