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Apr 26 2011 01:50pm
Quote (OgreDan @ Apr 26 2011 03:46pm)
Not accepting things as evidence doesn't mean no evidence is stated ;) There are many people who say what you do that claim no one ever puts forth any evidence to prove them wrong, only because your own opinions don't allow you to see anything not in your agenda as relevant.

Find me the evidence in this thread, then. I've read through it and haven't seen it. njaguar posted one link to one instance which does not say anything about increased likelihood of rape in a genderless bathroom since rape also occurs in gender-specific bathrooms.
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Apr 26 2011 01:52pm
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No really, just shouting 'PEDOPHILES' or 'SEX OFFENDERS' does not constitute as evidence or even an argument.



What's weird about it? The restroom is a place to relieve yourself. You're not in there to make friends. Walk in, piss/shit, wash hands, walk out. That's it. Who cares who is in the stall next to you?


But that's not all that's been said ;) You are picking out specifics from a few different people and trying to simplify it, then make fun of it to make the person saying it seem non-credible. Something many people do. Something I see on tv all the time is people who take things out of context and try to say something about it to make the person saying it seem like a joke. You are looking for what you want to see, not for what is entirely there. You have had your mind set on the outcome before the argument even started, so you can't see anything outside of your own view. Hence why you always think you win an argument.
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Apr 26 2011 01:53pm
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What's weird about it? The restroom is a place to relieve yourself. You're not in there to make friends. Walk in, piss/shit, wash hands, walk out. That's it. Who cares who is in the stall next to you?


People wouldn't feel comfortable going to the bathroom with the opposite sex in there. I certainly know I wouldn't. Even though it's not a place to make friends it doesn't make it less awkward and uncomfortable.
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According to a Minneapolis police report, the 20 year old woman was escorted to a family restroom shower where the suspect made her undress and then sexually assaulted her.  The alleged incident took place Sunday night between 7 and 9 pm


How did the bathroom Being Unisex directly lead to her being assaulted exactly?
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Apr 26 2011 01:55pm
Quote (njaguar @ 26 Apr 2011 20:49)
Plenty more reasons were given besides a risk of sexual assault (not just pedophiles, mind you). There are 325 replies on this topic for you to read regarding those reasons. You guys just fixate on pedophilia, which is rather disturbing in and of itself.

All the pro arguments consist of red herrings, and no proof. Anecdotal evidence is not evidence. Even when provided with proof that they do pose a risk, they are discarded as not important, which means you don't really care what the risk.

That's not having a debate, and calling foul on things that you yourself are equally guilty of is laughable.

Good show!


Basically, the pro-argument is that there is no inherent danger or risk in having a unisex bathroom.

You pulling one article from google from a 'sexual assault family bathroom' search is not proof that there is an inherent risk for sexual offence because it is in a unisex bathroom.



All reasons I've seen to be against unisex bathrooms are prude OR fearfull of sexoffense. Both of which are laughable in and of themselves.


There is nothing traumatical about nudity. There is nothing shamefull about nudity. Nudity is not the same as sexuality. On the off chance that a female child sees a penis in a unisex public restroom, there is nothing wrong with that if that child was brought up with healthy notions about human nudity/genetalia. They aren't gross or dirty or filthy or weird or ....


Nothing suggests that just because your child (or anyone) is in a unisex bathroom it is in a greater risk of being sexually molested.
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Apr 26 2011 01:57pm
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People wouldn't feel comfortable going to the bathroom with the opposite sex in there. I certainly know I wouldn't. Even though it's not a place to make friends it doesn't make it less awkward and uncomfortable.


And you don't think that's something that you were taught? The fact that you are weirded out by girls in your restroom is very likely linked to the fact that you (as most of us) had to use seperate bathrooms from a very young age.

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Find me the evidence in this thread, then. I've read through it and haven't seen it. njaguar posted one link to one instance which does not say anything about increased likelihood of rape in a genderless bathroom since rape also occurs in gender-specific bathrooms.


First things first, he posted a link to an instance which happened in a genderless bathroom. Your right, in the link it didn't say ANYTHING about an increased likelihood of rape in a genderless bathroom. But does it have to? Sometimes, things are just reported as they are. And that's how it happened. The article doesn't have to say "Oh, this happened because it was genderless" for the fact to remain that, YES, it was still a genderless bathroom, and Njaguar DID find the evidence someone asked. They asked him to prove that a genderless bathroom would show more, and even one more is more. He found, ONE MORE. So yes, he proved his point. You are correct, that rape DOES happen in same sex bathrooms, but honestly, would a 30 year old male try to rape another 30 year old male when they are both reasonably strong? NO... He would rather rape someone who is much weaker than him, and guess what? WOMEN are Generally much weaker because of body type. Men are generally physically stronger. So being in a unisex bathroom at 12 at night, and a girl walks in and gets raped by some guy, or being in a mens room with a guy walking in on a guy who is arguably as strong as he is? It's much less likely to happen in a same sex bathroom like that. It's common sense.
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Apr 26 2011 01:58pm
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People wouldn't feel comfortable going to the bathroom with the opposite sex in there. I certainly know I wouldn't. Even though it's not a place to make friends it doesn't make it less awkward and uncomfortable.


That's kind of the crux of this. The pro-gay zealots want to redefine everything so anyone can be anything at anytime, anywhere, with their agenda eclipsing that of the interests/safety of the children...
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Apr 26 2011 01:59pm
Quote (OgreDan @ 26 Apr 2011 20:57)
First things first, he posted a link to an instance which happened in a genderless bathroom. Your right, in the link it didn't say ANYTHING about an increased likelihood of rape in a genderless bathroom. But does it have to? Sometimes, things are just reported as they are. And that's how it happened. The article doesn't have to say "Oh, this happened because it was genderless" for the fact to remain that, YES, it was still a genderless bathroom, and Njaguar DID find the evidence someone asked. They asked him to prove that a genderless bathroom would show more, and even one more is more. He found, ONE MORE. So yes, he proved his point. You are correct, that rape DOES happen in same sex bathrooms, but honestly, would a 30 year old male try to rape another 30 year old male when they are both reasonably strong? NO... He would rather rape someone who is much weaker than him, and guess what? WOMEN are Generally much weaker because of body type. Men are generally physically stronger. So being in a unisex bathroom at 12 at night, and a girl walks in and gets raped by some guy, or being in a mens room with a guy walking in on a guy who is arguably as strong as he is? It's much less likely to happen in a same sex bathroom like that. It's common sense.


What's stopping the rapist from entering a genderspecific bathroom and raping the women there, Sherlock?
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Apr 26 2011 01:59pm
That video is terrible. Those girls beating that poor woman were savages and need to see a judge about it.
If I was the woman who was beaten I would sue the shit out of McDonalds and settle out of court for a nice settlement.
I'm sure there are plenty of lawyers in Baltimore that could make it happen.

Seeing things like this makes me believe the human race isn't worth saving.
Absolutely disgusting. Those girls should be charged with attempt of murder with that beating. People have died being beaten less.
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