That’s what hitler thought too

Focusing on human rights (which often is just a selectively applied tool) misses the essence of this conflict and how existential it is. 50 years ago a bunch of Muslim countries got together and conspired to completely wipe out the Jews from that land, not to pacify them, not to prevent some sort human right but to eradicate them. We literally just saw dozens of pics and videos from southern Israel, of women and kids loaded up and kidnapped to serve as human shields. A concert with a bunch of hippies massacred. That is the reality of who Israel has to guard against.

80 years ago the Mufta of Jerusalem had a conversation with Hitler where they discussed how to get rid of the Jews once and for all from the region.

Focusing on 'human rights' is so myopic. If I was an Israeli Jew and my ancestors survived that, you think I'd give a fuck about peoples human rights that want to exterminate me like an animal? Would you?

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Oct 8 2023 08:10pm

Its the same root illogic of all modern progressive liberalism: A total denial of responsibility and agency.
Here's a simple question: What can a Palestinian do, that you consider him to be responsible for?

If Palestinians can go out and slaughter hundreds of unarmed civilians, take women as sex slaves, massacre children, pillage and raid unchecked- and its all somehow Israel's fault- then what can Palestinians possibly do that they bear culpability for? If a Palestinian shows up at your door, pulls your family from your home and lops their heads off one by one, is he just acting on societal pressures and a product of circumstance? If a Palestinian rapes a young child, or throws a gay person off a roof, or blows himself up in a suicide attack. At what point can an action reach a level of barbarity that he somehow manages to bear personal culpability in your eyes? Because according to modern liberal theory, there is nothing a favored minority can possibly do, no crime, no terrorism, no act of butchery or even genocide at which point that person is treated as if they had any agency in their own actions. Whether its black mobs looting a store or carjacking people, or aliens crossing a border en masse, or muslims committing terrorist attacks, or Palestinians committing one of the worst acts of butchery in a developed country since the Holocaust- its always just someone's chickens coming home to roost, someone else's fault. Of course, not for the groups they disfavor, not for white people or jews or asians.

So again I ask, what heinous action could a Palestinian person take at which point they bear any responsibility? Do they need to kidnap a bus full of children and start a blood orgy of child rape, murder and cannibalism? Or if they were Jewish kids, would that just be decolonization? Or if they were gay kids, would that just be inconvenient and swept under the rug

Yeah and then he offed himself before the people who think the same but have more guns came to do it for him, so what?

purely socioeconomic reasons tbh

This post was edited by majorblood on Oct 8 2023 08:20pm

You brought up a good point. I feel that Jews have had to endure these things for thousands of years and this has definitely shaped their evolution. Because of the way their ancestors were treated by pretty much the entire world, and how they needed to struggle just to survive, there is tremendous selective pressure on them to evolve in such a way that kind, gentle, peaceful Jews' genes got culled. And we are left with a ferocious, lying, cruel, and some might even say evil, people known as modern-day Jews. It all makes sense.

Israelis have done similarly reprehensible things, but you don't cry for them to bear culpability for it.

No person owns property.
Don't believe me?
Stop paying taxes on it and watch what happens.
They just let you use it, for now.

thor would agree with this why say "don't believe me?"

This post was edited by majorblood on Oct 8 2023 08:25pm

Lol I see what you did there. Although I’m gonna just say that these kids who are trying to defend everything Israel does don’t seem to understand that saying “Israel has never done anything wrong” is akin to saying “hitler did nothing wrong.”