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Apr 8 2023 12:48am
Quote (Tommyvv @ Apr 8 2023 08:41am)
if you take it all, someone else have less.

Energy (climate change) = If there is to less, we inflate capital bubbles, so it stays with us


Id like to share
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Apr 8 2023 01:13am
Quote (Tommyvv @ Apr 8 2023 08:35am)
Co2 is not a problem, its food for plants, and it not increase tempreture.
Increasing tempreture, increase co2 level, since the oceans absorb less.
Exactly visa verta of what is spread in propaganda.

The real Propaganda agenda about Climate change, is to keep energy in the hands of the west to stay coin kapital leaders.


So you believe what <5% of climate scientists say about climate change but discard the 95% that say co2 and climate change is real? It seems to me that you categorically pick the unlikely anti-mainstream option in everything. Youre telling me basic high school knowledge about co2.... but how do you know its not a lie either?

You are more concerned with living in your own anti-mainstream world to feel special than with the truth. Instead of trying to see the common ground in a post where i lend you my hand and try to validate your concerns about the problem of capitalism and the environment, you just turn it into a Tommyvv thing about how Tommyvv is so special that he thinks SnG mainstream guides climate change is wrong and his ideas are better.

This post was edited by Neptunus on Apr 8 2023 01:16am
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Apr 8 2023 02:00am
Quote (Neptunus @ Apr 8 2023 09:13am)
So you believe what <5% of climate scientists say about climate change but discard the 95% that say co2 and climate change is real? It seems to me that you categorically pick the unlikely anti-mainstream option in everything. Youre telling me basic high school knowledge about co2.... but how do you know its not a lie either?

You are more concerned with living in your own anti-mainstream world to feel special than with the truth. Instead of trying to see the common ground in a post where i lend you my hand and try to validate your concerns about the problem of capitalism and the environment, you just turn it into a Tommyvv thing about how Tommyvv is so special that he thinks SnG mainstream guides climate change is wrong and his ideas are better.


co2 and climate change are real.
There is climate change, and always have been.

Is it a problem? and what is the problem?
Bio diversity not seems the problem, since the 1e solution to climate change was bio-power plants, where they ship canada wood to europe to burn it for a short co2 cycle.

Sea level rise? is that the problem, since all kapital coins are located near the sea.
Its not 10m1 in 100years.
And the average building needs to be replaced after 100years.


Here, best global warming sceptics channel on youtube

and youtube algorithm not even shows it when search: global warming sceptic Tom
only when search: global warming sceptic Tom Nelson
witch says enof about the propaganda and the 5%-95%


Now compare these videos with the Climate change warning videos, and try to think yourself.
There is no science in Climate change warning videos, only propaganda and people suffering from the climate, no science what so ever.
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Apr 8 2023 02:42am
Quote (Tommyvv @ Apr 8 2023 10:00am)
co2 and climate change are real.
There is climate change, and always have been.

Is it a problem? and what is the problem?
Bio diversity not seems the problem, since the 1e solution to climate change was bio-power plants, where they ship canada wood to europe to burn it for a short co2 cycle.

Sea level rise? is that the problem, since all kapital coins are located near the sea.
Its not 10m1 in 100years.
And the average building needs to be replaced after 100years.


Here, best global warming sceptics channel on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJL57RDFtzk
and youtube algorithm not even shows it when search: global warming sceptic Tom
only when search: global warming sceptic Tom Nelson
witch says enof about the propaganda and the 5%-95%


Now compare these videos with the Climate change warning videos, and try to think yourself.
There is no science in Climate change warning videos, only propaganda and people suffering from the climate, no science what so ever.


Thats the problem. I read written text about science. I dont watch youtube videos. The story you tell is the same thats been recycled in sceptic circles for ages. Climate scientists irl are quite unanimous about the mainstream idea and have debunked the whole "natural co2 cycle" theory like i said its just <5% of scientists who believe that. Just because there is a lot of propaganda doesnt mean you need to see everything through a propaganda lense. Even if you collect all the evidence you have, its still less than the evidence for climate change.

Its the same in medicine. People say "big pharma" and suddenly all medical research is false and corrupt. Its just difficult for people to believe in slow processes whose nature is statistical, and where there are few immediately observable measurable effects.

This post was edited by Neptunus on Apr 8 2023 02:42am
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Apr 8 2023 05:59am
Quote (Tommyvv @ 8 Apr 2023 10:00)
co2 and climate change are real.
There is climate change, and always have been.

Is it a problem? and what is the problem?
Bio diversity not seems the problem, since the 1e solution to climate change was bio-power plants, where they ship canada wood to europe to burn it for a short co2 cycle.

Sea level rise? is that the problem, since all kapital coins are located near the sea.
Its not 10m1 in 100years.
And the average building needs to be replaced after 100years.


Here, best global warming sceptics channel on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJL57RDFtzk
and youtube algorithm not even shows it when search: global warming sceptic Tom
only when search: global warming sceptic Tom Nelson
witch says enof about the propaganda and the 5%-95%


Now compare these videos with the Climate change warning videos, and try to think yourself.
There is no science in Climate change warning videos, only propaganda and people suffering from the climate, no science what so ever.


Thanks you Mr climatologist expert to enlighting us in the proper topic.
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Apr 8 2023 07:24am
So their finishd’ ?
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Apr 8 2023 09:19am
"US Secretary of State Blinken stated that he rules out negotiations between the Russian Federation and Ukraine now.
The United States is convinced that the idea of a cease-fire may seem "attractive" now, but then the peace will not be "fair and durable."

Unfortunately: he's certainly right, there's no way to properly "negotiate" with russians aka trusting them, at least until they change their form of government.
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Apr 8 2023 09:49am
Quote (Neptunus @ Apr 7 2023 12:46pm)
Freedom is the illusion thats being sold to you. Youre not free to walk or use a bicycle in LA to get around.


I'm in Ohio. Quit reading here.

Hope this helps.
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Apr 8 2023 09:50am
Quote (Neptunus @ Apr 7 2023 12:46pm)
Freedom is the illusion thats being sold to you. Youre not free to walk or use a bicycle in LA to get around. You need to own a car to get by in the city. You need to use money for insurance to get health care. Youre as free as your money makes you. Youre free to buy what the market decides to sell you. And when people get fatter, youre still using a lot of tax money to fund public health care on top of the private sector, which means you couldve had less taxes, but you cant because they wouldnt cover the consequences of freedom.

Freedom also means the freedom to organize, make regulations and vote for them. There can also be an idea of effective freedom. In Europe managing wealth inequality with taxes creates more effective freedom for a bigger population.


Let us know when Russia becomes free of putin.
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Apr 8 2023 12:34pm
Quote (said_aouita @ Apr 8 2023 05:50pm)
Let us know when Russia becomes free of putin.


Waiting for it even more than you do.

Quote (said_aouita @ Apr 8 2023 05:49pm)
I'm in Ohio. Quit reading here.

Hope this helps.


Its an example. Im not very familiar with the US but I know about LA where afaik you have some American Super Freedom.

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