It's okay, Biden will lose to Trump in 2020 and I'll be proven wrong for the millionth time.

I have nightmares about the possibility that the Dems will pull the same thing they pulled in 2016. They might just nominate Hillary again. They cheated last time to get Hillary nominated (ask Bernie), they might just do it again.

Hillary has been making lots of noise lately... around the internet.


/e It might also explain the idiotic 24 Dems trying for the nomination. They all make each other look so bad, that the voters (possibly) start to think they should have just stuck with Hillary the last time. And poof, in 2020 they get (possibly) another chance.

This post was edited by Ghot on Oct 8 2019 01:45pm

Just fap to her and get it over with.

The race was insanely close such that virtually anything would have tipped it in her favor. The closest thing to election day was Comey, but yes, she should have had it in the bag even despite that.

She was a terrible candidate and it took everything under the sun magically lining up for Trump to eek out a 70k margin in a few key states to win.

Those are interesting arguments, and they make sense. I still disagree with your conclusion that the Dems will win if they just dont change, for the following reasons:

• First, the Dems had an unprecedented 2-to-1 fundraising advantage in 2016. They wont in 2020. Trump has a lot more time to collect money while the Dem candidates are still busy with their primary. He delivered massive tax cuts that corporate america loved, and despite all the apocalyptic predictions, the world has not ended under his watch. Some Democratic donors from Wall Street have already hinted that they might sit out this election if Warren (or Bernie) become the nominee, or might even support Trump over them. Furthermore, the Dems will have to waste a lot of their money during a cutthroat primary while Trump can balloon his war chest.
  
• Second, the Democrats are no longer where they were in 2016. They have already moved substantially to the left since then, and there's no real way back if you ask me. Imho, their positions in 2016 were just about as liberal as you can position yourself while still being feasible in America. Since then, they have adopted an agenda of tax hikes, oppression olympics, open borders, kicking 180m+ americans off their current healthcare plans, taxpayer funded late-term abortions, reparations for slavery, and so on and on.
  
• Third, in 2016, cultural, intellectual, political and media elites were backing one candidate over the other to an unprecedented degree, and they still couldnt pull it off. Since then, the influence of these elites on Trump's base and swing voters surely hasnt increased.
  
• Fourth, in 2016, the Trump campaign was a chaotic, improvised trainwreck from start to finish. This time around, he will have much more time to plan it out and his campaign will be run a lot more professionally.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Oct 8 2019 03:10pm

I don't trust Trump to run his campaign efficiently no matter how much time he's given to plan. Trump thrives in chaos, when things get calm and people start thinking Trump sinks like a stone.

The people running his campaign will be more professional. Trump himself thrives in chaos, yes, and he will find ways to create chaos, as he always does. But the baseline professionality and efficiency of his campaign will nonetheless be a lot higher than in 2016.

Does your opinion ever resemble reality?

He was written off as a joke and ended up winning the presidency even though the mainstream media was against him and he ran against a household name who had both the money and institutional backing. If that's not efficiency, i don't know what is.

Lol

Then apparently you don't know what is.