I don't think we're at risk of some tyranny of the majority if the filibuster is removed. We're risking the majority governing, which has certain consequences, whether it be a Trumpist group or a Democratic group.

The American system has sufficient checks against tyranny. A majority passing lawful bills is not tyranny.

This post was edited by IceMage on Jan 22 2021 04:54pm

"The Biden administration is making plenty of changes in the wake of the Trump presidency. Aside from reversing course on serious issues like Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals and the Paris Climate Accord, an alteration to the White House has gotten some attention online: President Joe Biden has reportedly nixed Trump's Diet Coke button.

The button, according to a 2018 report from the Associated Press, sat on former President Donald Trump's desk in the Oval Office. Whenever he pushed it, "a White House butler walked in with a single glass of Diet Coke on a silver tray for the commander in chief," the AP's Julie Pace said, having watched the button deployed."


https://www.cnet.com/news/joe-biden-nixes-donald-trumps-diet-coke-summoning-button-says-report/

This is why you need to be the VP if we get elected.

whats wrong with diet coke.. should have kept the button >.>

Other then it tasting like shit & being terrible for you ?

That's not really indicative of Biden's true intentions regarding the filibuster. Let's assume for a moment that he indeed wants to get rid of it. In this case, would he just be blunt about it and go "we got the votes, I dont care about precedent or norms, we're in power, screw it, we'll go for the nuclear option right away"? No, of course not.

Instead, he would start out by insisting that he does not want to end the filibuster. Then, he would wait until there is a popular bill spiked with Democratic poison pills that Republicans cannot possibly let pass. Say a covid relief bill which contains provisions for DC and PR statehood or some other kinds of voting rights reform. Then, he can shed some crocodile tears and argue that he really really does not want to end the filibuster, but that the evil obstructionist Republicans leave him no other choice.


Hence, whether Biden genuinely wants to keep the filibuster or actually wants to end it, he would publicly claim to be against nuking it either way. Therefore, his words on the issue dont carry much weight at the current stage. We wont know where he truly stands on it until there has been a good opportunity to make the aforementioned move.

What about the COVID relief bill that he proposed, which doesn't contain DC or PR statehood?

I agree his position is probably somewhat fluid based on circumstances... but I don't think it's as fluid as you propose here.

This post was edited by IceMage on Jan 22 2021 05:58pm

Too little time for such a move, too much other stuff going on. He needs the Senate floor time to get his cabinet picks confirmed and pass some important bills. Once the agenda is less bloated and the vaccine rollout is going smoothly, the occasion will be better for this kind of maneuver (which will see the Senate blocked for weeks on end). I mean, it's obvious to everyone that the recent covid relief bill wont be the last, so there's no need to rush things.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jan 22 2021 06:17pm

This is how we find unity right here.