Quote (fender @ 20 Mar 2019 13:25)

and while you justifiably claim that you never SAID you wanted a two-class criminal system, your posts still suggest it. just look at that last sentence of yours...

Quote (Black XistenZ @ 20 Mar 2019 13:34)

there's a difference between a criminal justice system that treats people differently based on their identity, and a criminal justice system that affects various statistical groups differently.

the former would be racist/sexist/classist, the latter is not. if group A commits more crimes of a certain type than group B, then tightening the sentencing for this type of crime will affect group A more.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ 20 Mar 2019 13:34)

and yes, I would say the same things about child molester or parole cases, but those tend to not be brought up here on pard because they typically are local events without political implications. terrorism has larger implications for society, that's why terrorism cases are talked about more frequently here; and big terrorist attack in the western world have disproportionately been islamistic in recent years.

Quote (ofthevoid @ Mar 19 2019 08:15pm)

Speaker of the House of Commons just casually walking to work? Is this normal in the UK?

How have the snackbars not caught onto this? If I was a terrorist, fuck knife or car attacks against plebs, just pick off these guys.

Quote (fender @ 20 Mar 2019 14:11)

i'm just wondering, did you make a single post about the nsu terrorists in this forum? about politically motivated attacks against migrants or arson attacks against refugee shelters?

Quote (fender @ 20 Mar 2019 14:11)

so what kind of crimes should be punished harsher to prevent terrorist attacks then? domestic violence? drug abuse? sex crimes?

Quote (IceMage @ 20 Mar 2019 14:14)

I had the same thoughts after the congressional baseball practice got shot up. Why couldn't ISIS figure that out?

Quote (Black XistenZ @ 20 Mar 2019 14:26)

has anyone? discussions about those topics didnt come up so far, and tbh I dont think there is too much to discuss there.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ 20 Mar 2019 14:26)

all I was saying is that this should be discussed more publicly, but our politicians dont want to touch this topic for obvious reasons.

Quote (fender @ 20 Mar 2019 14:45)

of course you don't, which is exactly my point...

feelings over facts and baseless conspiracy theories vol. 7,224.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ 20 Mar 2019 15:01)

lol...

we have an attack with 3 dead, the police says there is strong indication for a terroristic background.
we find out that the perperator has a long criminal history, including murder charges, was released on parole, broke his parole conditions, was later released anyways, committed more crimes without going to jail, then was accused of rape, released on parole again and broke his parole conditions again, then committed the presumably terrorist attack.
I say that a guy with this criminal history should never have been on the streets still; and that such a leniency of our criminal justice system in dealing with highly criminal subjects like this one is a serious issue for which we as a society must find a solution.

you come in, accuse me of wanting to establish a racist two-class criminal justice system discriminating against "brown" people.
and a couple of posts later, it is YOU who is accusing ME of baseless conspiracy theories.

yeah, right. :rolleyes:

Quote (fender @ 20 Mar 2019 15:28)

no sane person would, with the benefit of hindsight, disagree with you that he should NOT have been in a situation to carry out his disgusting attack. the difference between us is that i say we need to solve that in a way that doesn't damage our society and stays true to our long standing tradition of judging each case on its merits and strictly according to law, while you keep suggesting that only certain groups have to be targeted and that people are ignoring the problem for some nefarious reason...

Quote (fender @ 20 Mar 2019 15:28)

i know the whole 'activist judges', 'politicians who are afraid to discuss solutions', 'the world is going to end because of political correctness' trope is very common and popular in your echo chamber, but that does not make it reality.

what IS reality is that people like you exclusively focus on crimes committed by certain groups though.

doesn't really take a genius to figure out where you're coming from...

no sane person would, with the benefit of hindsight, disagree with you that he should NOT have been in a situation to carry out his disgusting attack. the difference between us is that i say we need to solve that in a way that doesn't damage our society and stays true to our long standing tradition of judging each case on its merits and strictly according to law, while you keep suggesting that only certain groups have to be targeted and that people are ignoring the problem for some nefarious reason...