Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Nov 25 2015 07:39pm)
...Indians ( feather ) did not believe in land ownership ; the Pilgrims did , so by default it was theirs for the taking .
which Indians? surely many of them believed in the cultivation of land, as wittnessed by the variety of crops that their work introduced into Europe (tobacco, maize, squash, and some varieties of beans). what are you talking about?
ownership does not mean what you think here, especially if it's leased (which seems to generally been the case). and doubly so when it's robbed and the treaties are broken.
how would you excuse the actions made in the name of "terra nullius", or the outright violent conquest and the breaking of treaties?
Quote (Goomshill @ Nov 26 2015 06:16pm)
No no no widow, american injuns were mystical fairy elves who lived in peace and harmony with their lands, untainted by war pestilence or famine, they lived ideal lives in utopia without need for higher concepts like economics because they already had all their needs given to them by the blessed land. All until their tribes were ruined and despoiled and first sin introduced by the white man who brought disease, war, hate and whiskey. You need to educate yourself by watching historical epics like fern gully
but this is what most historians utterly reject. instead it is believed that many American Indians actually had "complex societies" and that they were extensively agricultural. where are you getting this from, because i'm getting the feeling that it's mostly from your imagination.
Quote (Goomshill @ Nov 26 2015 06:32pm)
simple, they didn't receive needful things, and died because of it, whether it was due to lack of medicine or food or shelter
but medicine is a rather recent product. it seems to me as if you're conflating it with the colonialist times, which is insane. it wasn't because of an innate lack of food or shelter, but often because these two things were taken away from them. when it comes to many parts of South America or the Caribbean a more accurate depiction would be "they died because they were starved to death by slave labour".