Oh please, jackson does everything the whiners are attacking rings of power for doing.
He replaced glorfindel at the river crossing with arwen to get more female representation, despite glorfindel being one of two elves left in the world of middle earth capable of holding off the ring wraiths (Galadrial was the other one).
I have forgotten more than any of these incels attacking rings of power have ever known about tolkiens works and they are hitting most of the important points just fine.
Considering the second age is 3,441 years they will need to condense a lot of things to make the story coherent, which is why the silmarillion was hundreds of short stories rather than one continuous novel.
I am just going to take it as it is and watch it for what it is, tolkien inspired high fantasy, and its pretty damn good so far.

This post was edited by Plaguefear on Sep 23 2022 06:11pm

Wait are people actually watching poor man’s GoT?

It is better than game of thrones so far, it only has to be better than season 6

As a kid, I was slightly miffed that Glorfindel didn't show up, but it made sense. They needed to condense the number of characters, Glorfindel appears and then he's gone, it makes sense not to include him. And if you can develop Arwen at the same time, great. They killed off Haldir for similar reasons, and we should all be far more upset by the latter. The elves of Lorien randomly showing up at Helm's Deep on behalf of Rivendell was terrible.

Elrond > Glorfindel, he's his lord for a reason. Whether Tolkien meant Glorfindel to be "the" Glorfindel is a matter of contention anyway. Elrond sends his sons in LOTR because he is an important lord and is required elsewhere, not because he's weak and powerless. The same is true of Galadriel, she's one of the most powerful figures in Middle Earth, all the more reason for why she isn't out leading routine patrols or climbing ice mountains. And as someone who tutored under Melian for centuries, the greater power of her being is in magic anyway.

I would have rather they taken the wars between Gondor and Harad and fleshed them out. Or that they would have shown us Rhovanion or the coming of the Northmen. Make up a story involving Arathorn or some other character with less impact on the story. Galadriel and Elrond are central characters, and retconning them as immature heroes in a made up second age is terrible.

Tolkien does confirm its the real glorfindel, and elrond is not more powerful than him, nor is he his lord.
He came back to help the same way gandalf did, illuvatar sent him back for services rendered, pretty much the same service too since they both fell killing a balrog in a 1v1.
I really don't care about how well they stick to exact canon, we got more high fantasy in a space devoid of it, its so rare these days that i will support it and hope they make more rather than shit on it and hope they cancel it.

He then became again a living incarnate person, but was permitted to dwell in the Blessed Realm; for he had regained the primitive innocence and grace of the Eldar. For long years he remained in Valinor, in reunion with the Eldar who had not rebelled, and in the companionship of the Maiar. To these he had now become almost an equal, for though he was an incarnate (to whom a bodily form not made or chosen by himself was necessary) his spiritual power had been greatly enhanced by his self-sacrifice.
—The History of Middle-earth vol. XII, The Peoples of Middle-earth, The Last Writings, Glorfindel
Tolkien came up with three options regarding Glorfindel's return to Middle-earth: SA 1200 (during Annatar's appearance in Númenor), SA 1600 (the completion of Barad-dûr), or TA 1000 (with the five Istari). Although all were probable, Tolkien favoured the SA 1600 date.



This post was edited by Plaguefear on Sep 24 2022 01:11am

I agree with you that that's the case, only that few topics have generated more discussion than the two Glorfindels. Tolkien acknowledges that using the name twice was a mistake, hence why he had to try and reconcile the two, in what I believe is one of the last changes he ever made.
On the issue of his power, from the Fellowship of the Rings, "...On foot even Glorfindel and Aragorn together could not withstand all the Nine at once" (p.293). Glorfindel and Aragorn both jump off the rode, or in Gandalf's words "... they would have been ridden down." Characters in Lord of the Rings aren't gods. If not for the eagles, Gandalf would have been killed in the Hobbit by a bunch of wolves and orcs. Gandalf himself only fends off 6 of the Nazgul at Weathertop, and then flees in the morning. Elrond is the wielder of Vilya and the main power in Rivendell. The fords rise because he commands it, the river is under his power. Aragorn introduces Glorfindel as an elven lord who "... lives in the House of Elrond". He (and others would could resist the Nine) were sent out on Elrond's orders. In one of his letter's Tolkien mentions "... it appears that Galadriel conceived of herself as capable of wielding the Ring and supplanting the Dark Lord. If so, so also were the other guardians of the Three, especially Elrond.".

Told you they was out to get you.