When are you guys going to realize that the culture war is a spook?

I don't think Democrats have "replaced" the GOP as the home of corporate America. They are both still massively donated to by the same companies. Trump was an anomaly that introduced uncertainty, and companies don't like that so they worked to get him out. It's that simple.



You're right. Everybody who disagrees with me isn't a shill. In fact there are MANY people on this forum I disagree with but have never once called a shill.

The Democratic party has not moved significantly left from where it was 12 years ago. The movement left has largely been limited to their willingness to pay lip service to leftist causes, but has resulted in virtually no action in actually enacting those policies. Hell let's take gay marriage. Obama didn't lift a finger to get gays the right to marry except for not defending DOMA. It was a supreme court decision. Perfect example of where Democrats paid lip service to a policy but didn't actually take action on it despite it being massively popular. Healthcare? Won't even vote on national healthcare, and Obamacare was the default Republican position until Democrats started wanting to pass it too. I could go on. Democrats are mostly stagnant, and Republicans are lurching right. There is a small progressive force in the Democrat party but as of now it has virtually zero power in the party.



Says the person I regularly disagree with but have never called a shill

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Jan 21 2021 12:50pm

i only shill for Yang Gang / UBI / robot overlords, it is known

It is known indeed.

This is the way.

imagine not shilling for robot overlords in 2021.

Their donations werent limited to Biden, they also extended to all sorts of downballot races where Democrats have been outraising Republicans by ridiculous margins in recent years. It's become quite normal when the Democrat in a race outraises the Republican by 2:1.

If Corporate America wasnt comfortable with the Democratic party (at least as long as the corporate-friendly establishment can keep Bernie/Warren et al. in check), they wouldnt spend so much to strengthen Democrats across the board. This trend is not an aberration, a one-off caused by or limited to Trump.


Love him or hate him, but Josh Hawley really hit the nail on the head when he said that "the interests of big business and big government are increasingly aligned".

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jan 21 2021 01:23pm

soon it will be shill or get ground into fuel for the machines.

Looking at the ratio doesn't tell the whole story, and I'd also argue that we can't know the ratio with any degree of certainty with how many campaign donation reporting laws that aren't enforced, and the fact that Republicans get billions of dollars despite Democrats ultimately getting more money. Like, one side getting 2 billion and the other side getting 4 billion doesn't mean the side getting 2 billion isn't still firmly under the control of corporate interests. That's more or less the situation we're in. It's not like Republicans dropped to a tiny amount of corporate money.



Tough choice. I'd love to die, but I'd also like to be fuel for the robot overlords.

People who pass massive tax cuts and deregulation don't get to pretend to not be aligned with big business.