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Mar 18 2019 01:22pm
Quote (balrog66 @ 18 Mar 2019 18:18)
Not clear yet. Note that the Netherlands has a more harsh justice system than many other Western European nations (higher % of conviction, etc). There will 100% be an investigation into why this guy was out on the streets and if there at any point was legal reason to detain him.


there should be an investigation why he was still in the country

Quote (balrog66 @ 18 Mar 2019 18:35)
The suspect has been arrested :)


that was quick
the police officers i know have only good things to say about the dutch police, really good professionals
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Mar 18 2019 02:22pm
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Mar 18 2019 06:24pm)
T. May trying to pass her agreement for the third time: refused by the chamber speaker:

"But the government can not represent the same proposal or substantially the same one that was rejected last week by 149 votes," he added, based on a "very strong and old convention, dating back to 2 April 1604 ".

This convention has been invoked several times in British parliamentary history by the speaker to reject the examination of a text, said Mr. Bercow, citing the dates of 1864, 1870, 1882, 1891 and 1912. "C" is a necessary rule to ensure that the time of the House is used sensibly and the necessary respect for its decisions, "added John Bercow.

So they got the delay, then a longer delay.


Bercow is a legend. He's totally right, too. The government want MPs to vote on their deal until it passes, but they don't want a second referendum...
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Mar 19 2019 02:35am
Quote (dro94 @ Mar 18 2019 08:22pm)
Bercow is a legend. He's totally right, too. The government want MPs to vote on their deal until it passes, but they don't want a second referendum...


There's a slight difference between a vote amongst a few hundred mps that takes a day to organise and a vote between tens of millions of the public that takes months to organise and millions of pounds.

But I'm sure you don't need me to tell you that.
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Mar 19 2019 03:01am
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There's a slight difference between a vote amongst a few hundred mps that takes a day to organise and a vote between tens of millions of the public that takes months to organise and millions of pounds.

But I'm sure you don't need me to tell you that.


doesnt change the fact that it's disrespectful and a waste of everyone's time to let the MPs vote on a bill again and again even though they have soundly rejected it every time.
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Mar 19 2019 03:03am
Quote (dro94 @ 18 Mar 2019 21:22)
Bercow is a legend. He's totally right, too. The government want MPs to vote on their deal until it passes, but they don't want a second referendum...


You means the best thing would have been that T.May present her agreement in a referendum ?
Seems appropriate, not sure the 600 pages would make it :lol:

Not even sure a majority people would take the time to read 6 pages summary.

All i see now is delaying till another prime minister get in charge and, more likely, ask for Hard Brexit referendum.
T.May must look like a zombie right now
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Mar 19 2019 03:03am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Mar 19 2019 09:01am)
doesnt change the fact that it's disrespectful and a waste of everyone's time to let the MPs vote on a bill again and again even though they have soundly rejected it every time.


Not saying it isn't, I find the whole thing completely ridiculous when there are other options out there.

Doesn't change the fact that a UK wide referendum can't even remotely be compared to a parliamentary vote.
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Mar 19 2019 03:04am
Quote (WNxIrvine @ 19 Mar 2019 10:03)
Doesn't change the fact that a UK wide referendum can't even remotely be compared to a parliamentary vote.


agreed, but this wasnt the point.
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Mar 19 2019 03:07am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Mar 19 2019 09:04am)
agreed, but this wasnt the point.


So what was the point exactly?
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Mar 19 2019 02:12pm
Quote (WNxIrvine @ Mar 19 2019 10:07am)
So what was the point exactly?


The point was to highlight May's hypocrisy and unprincipled behaviour rather than a technical comparison between an MP vote and a nationwide referendum.

But I'm sure you don't need me to tell you that.
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Mar 19 2019 03:28pm
Speaker John Bercow getting harrassed by the Beeb for stopping May voting on the same shit again and again



This post was edited by dro94 on Mar 19 2019 03:28pm
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