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Nov 25 2015 10:51am
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ 25 Nov 2015 11:39)
...Indians ( feather ) did not believe in land ownership ; the Pilgrims did , so by default it was theirs for the taking .



Oh horseshit. The native Americans did indeed have lands just communal lands belonging to tribe or even nation but they did indeed have territories. And their land wasn't there for the taking as evidenced by the early tensions caused by the settlers expansion west.
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Nov 25 2015 11:01am
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ 25 Nov 2015 17:39)
...Indians ( feather ) did not believe in land ownership ; the Pilgrims did , so by default it was theirs for the taking .


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Matthew 7:5 ESV
"You hypocrite"


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Nov 25 2015 01:10pm
Quote (Valhalls_Sun @ Nov 25 2015 10:51am)
Oh horseshit. The native Americans did indeed have lands just communal lands belonging to tribe or even nation but they did indeed have territories. And their land wasn't there for the taking as evidenced by the early tensions caused by the settlers expansion west.


They lost their wars and their land was settled from those losses, don't fight wars you can't afford to lose red man.
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Nov 25 2015 01:30pm
Quote (Gastly @ Nov 23 2015 05:00pm)
if you're talking about a feudal system then you're explicitly wrong.


I am explicitly right. wtf are you on?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_tenure

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Land tenure is the name given, particularly in common law systems, to the legal regime in which land is owned by an individual, who is said to "hold" the land (the French verb "tenir" means "to hold"; "tenant" is the present participle of "tenir"). The sovereign monarch, known as The Crown, held land in its own right. All private owners are either its tenants or sub-tenants. The term "tenure" is used to signify the relationship between tenant and lord, not the relationship between tenant and land.



Historically in the system of feudalism, the lords who received land directly from the Crown were called tenants-in-chief. They doled out portions of their land to lesser tenants in exchange for services, who in turn divided it among even lesser tenants. This process—that of granting subordinate tenancies—is known as subinfeudation. In this way, all individuals except the monarch were said to hold the land "of" someone else.

Historically, it was usual for there to be reciprocal duties between lord and tenant. There were different kinds of tenure to fit various kinds of duties that a tenant might owe to a lord. For instance, a military tenure might be by knight-service, requiring the tenant to supply the lord with a number of armed horsemen. The concept of tenure has since evolved into other forms, such as leases and estates.
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Nov 26 2015 03:55am
anti muslim event in usa


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Nov 26 2015 08:43am
Quote (Valhalls_Sun @ Nov 25 2015 11:51am)
Oh horseshit. The native Americans did indeed have lands just communal lands belonging to tribe or even nation but they did indeed have territories. And their land wasn't there for the taking as evidenced by the early tensions caused by the settlers expansion west.


...the concept of owning the land is not even in their languages . They occupied and held land by force and attacked other tribes to occupy their land . The main reason the Abenaki Sagamore Indians approached the Pilgrims was to form a military alliance against their enemies which led to what we call the first Thanksgiving . Put that in your PC pipe and smoke it !
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Nov 26 2015 09:16am
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Nov 26 2015 08:43am)
...the concept of owning the land is not even in their languages . They occupied and held land by force and attacked other tribes to occupy their land . The main reason the Abenaki Sagamore Indians approached the Pilgrims was to form a military alliance against their enemies which led to what we call the first Thanksgiving . Put that in your PC pipe and smoke it !


No no no widow, american injuns were mystical fairy elves who lived in peace and harmony with their lands, untainted by war pestilence or famine, they lived ideal lives in utopia without need for higher concepts like economics because they already had all their needs given to them by the blessed land. All until their tribes were ruined and despoiled and first sin introduced by the white man who brought disease, war, hate and whiskey. You need to educate yourself by watching historical epics like fern gully
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Nov 26 2015 09:19am
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ 26 Nov 2015 09:43)
...the concept of owning the land is not even in their languages . They occupied and held land by force and attacked other tribes to occupy their land . The main reason the Abenaki Sagamore Indians approached the Pilgrims was to form a military alliance against their enemies which led to what we call the first Thanksgiving . Put that in your PC pipe and smoke it !



Are you nit-picking the difference between occupying and holding by force with owning? if they had their village on a section of land and they hunter the surrounding land...it was their land.

What's that saying about possession and ownership again?

Try harder Kemo Sabe
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