I have no issue with blackface. I think it's a silly thing to ruin someone's career/life over and that we've got much bigger fish to fry. It's very easy to see if someone is using blackface in a hateful manner.

That being said, you can't have it both ways. Blackface can't be a club to beat your opponent into submission and an innocent mistake with your ally.

Soot is how it was explained later on, it's quite a good mitigation for the kids.. Kids really don't care about it, none of them, it's when you grow up and see the links towards slavery and ofc that we should all be afraid of black pete, or he'll put you in a sack and kidnap you to Spain.
It's not really a biggie to change the tradition towards actual soot petes, (/e: cutting off the stereotyping links) looking more like they've gone through a chimney. Not being completely black, but with soot stripes on their faces.. The tradition still continues and the kids still don't care

This post was edited by Knoppie on Sep 19 2019 12:59pm

It appears the school i went to stoped it in 2017.

Oww... That's a waste of a perfectly happy Dutch tradition..

Let them start with the Soot pete next year imo

I'm not completely sure how it's related to the US discussion, need to do more research for that tbh. Differences in common culture in a country at a time needs to be taken into consideration. That goes for comparing Trudeau to the US discussion as well.

This post was edited by Knoppie on Sep 19 2019 01:17pm

I agree, but that's not what is going on with the "woke" crowd. They're boycotting businesses, demanding resignations, and protesting/rioting based these types of social faux pas. It's a very hostile situation.

Talking about Trudeau here? Or do you have a nice picture for the tread, to give an example of what you're saying?

This post was edited by Knoppie on Sep 19 2019 01:48pm

https://www.dosomething.org/us/articles/dont-wear-blackface


https://www.huffpost.com/topic/blackface?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAAM4oeGhZnG7wdrzZi0NrMZC4PUayG8CNO5YRMhRAL7AdDQZodzoB1eVqnI4Z4F3SBO7WLBi3Jx9eZ2MyrAyG5T2vcFm1Nv3Dm-VAyjqclJaDrjf014rkGEFA8yqiCxp7Wa59_nAmzgUavvOkGAqk_vZcAdK-9ccPn_0OAd1EQfE

https://www.complex.com/tag/blackface

http://nymag.com/tags/blackface/

The tabloids literally collect and categorize this shit in the states.

https://www.complex.com/music/2019/03/soulja-boy-wont-perform-gucci-bandana-anymore-because-the-company-racist

Like this one the most I guess

Most of that is clickbait news, controversial marketing combined with celebs apologizing for blackface sketches, with smears and a public wanting to blame something on the surface of a history of blackface usage in a country.. The discussion there is definitely more vivid in the US than here, for the better or worse. /e: I tbh somewhat comment the diversity in social movements at play.. Seems like Trudeau got caught up in one of the smear campaigns.

This post was edited by Knoppie on Sep 19 2019 02:26pm

My fetish is externalities.