Quote (Goomshill @ 18 Mar 2019 14:26)

good thing all the mosques were put on high alert and police units were redirected to protecting muslims from potential white nationalists...

Quote (Black XistenZ @ 18 Mar 2019 14:41)

exactly my thoughts as well. on German TV, they were interviewing a Dutch security expert and were pressing him about a potential right-wing background all the time. :rolleyes:

Quote (fender @ 18 Mar 2019 15:30)

ikr? how would they get the outlandish idea that white nationalists would ever do something like that?

'i'm not a racist, but...'

Quote (Black XistenZ @ 18 Mar 2019 15:43)

the vast majority of terrorist attacks in recent european history had an islamistic background. the attack in New Zealand, as horrible as it was, doesnt change the statistic too much. rationally acting authorities without a recency bias would have had to consider all possible backgrounds, and not just focus on white nationalists.

Quote (fender @ 18 Mar 2019 15:51)

well then you'll be happy to hear they didn't, that assumption is pure fiction. you could have extracted that information from the linked articles and reports, but i guess your bias was just too strong - so you exclusively focused on the mosques part.

'i'm not a racist, but...'

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, "was arrested and released a few years ago because of ISIS connection. would not interfere much into Turkish society, was a reclusive type,"

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The suspect, Gökmen Tanis, was reportedly the suspect in a 2017 rape case that was heard in court just two weeks ago. He also faced off with police on a number of other issues since 2013, reported RTV Utrecht.

Tanis was accused of shooting at an apartment in the Kanaleneiland section of Utrecht, and near where Monday's shooting took place back in December 2013. He was investigated for both attempted manslaughter and serious assault in that case.

Other investigations included suspicion of threatening a woman, verbally abusing a woman, insulting and threatening police, theft, burglary, driving under the influence, and urinating in a holding cell, RTV Utrecht stated.

Shortly after the mayor's statement was published, police in Utrecht revealed more details in the investigation. "Just before the shooting incident on the 24 Oktoberplein in Utrecht, there was a carjacking on the Amerikalaan [where] a red Renault Clio was taken. The car involved was later found on the Tichelaarslaan."

Quote (Goomshill @ 18 Mar 2019 16:04)

Now reports are coming that Gökmen Tanis was previously arrested for manslaughter, rape, membership in ISIS and urinating in public
kind of a real-life https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ArsonMurderAndJaywalking

https://www.artigercek.com/haberler/hollanda-da-silahli-saldiri-cok-sayida-yarali-var



they also say he had fought in Chechnya

Quote (Black XistenZ @ 18 Mar 2019 15:58)

well, they did not focus exclusively on white nationalists, but they quite clearly prioritized resources for the protection of mosques.

and that the media was focusing on the white nationalist narrative shouldnt need a debate either, I had watched over an hour of live coverage on various news channels around noon and they were all pushing this narrative, even though the experts and pundits they interviewed were more cautious.

Quote (ampoo @ Mar 18 2019 09:13am)

oh look, fender tries to play down things again, what a suprise

we had that discussion before and as i said, this is the price for not dealing with isis scum accordingly