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Sep 15 2019 12:25pm
Quote (Ghot @ Sep 15 2019 11:20am)
The egos in this sub are seriously bloated. I guess it would be halfway understandable if there was at least a semblance of experience to back them up.


Do you call the baker when you're arrested? No, you call your lawyer. Do you call a lawyer, when you have a fever of 104? No, you call a doctor. We rely on the experience of experts in our current society.
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Do you call the baker when you're arrested? No, you call your lawyer. Do you call a lawyer, when you have a fever of 104? No, you call a doctor. We rely on the experience of experts in our current society.




My god! You're right. I don't go to PaRD when I want to know about global climate either. :D
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Quote (fender @ Sep 15 2019 10:18am)
yes, i am sure hong kong would be much better off if the demonstrators were armed with assault weapons, shooting at police. it's not like the tanks and troops stationed directly at their doorstep would have moved in, put the city under military rule, killing thousands in the process, no... most likely, the chinese government would be so afraid, they'd just leave them alone...

gun nuts are so deluded...


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Today i met Ghot in a path of exile meme

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Today i met Ghot in a path of exile meme

https://i.imgur.com/7vimDQ8.png



LOL
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Sep 15 2019 01:41pm
Wish i could flash back to the 80's and watch ghot and his friends fight for big tobacco and james hardie and whine about all the scientists being wrong.
Look, if the overwhelming scientific consensus on something goes to the opposite side of most of the money and the few objectors are directly paid by big corporations with a vested interest we KNOW how this goes, they extend their profits a few more years by paying people off and muddying the waters on the science only to be eventually outed for their disgusting tactics.
This has happened a million times in the past but THIS time big oil and coal are right and the science is wrong right?
Even though we have DOCUMENTS from FREEDOM of INFORMATION requests that PROVE big oil DISCOVERED climate change and COVERED IT UP.
We have EMAIL CHAINS of them DISCUSSING this cover up.

We know climate science is real because if it wasn't the overwhelming scientific consensus would be where the money is, with the oil and coal cartels.
The combined wealth of the top 6 oil companies is over a trillion dollars.
The big miners are worth similar amounts.

This post was edited by Plaguefear on Sep 15 2019 01:56pm
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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Sep 15 2019 03:29pm)
Today i met Ghot in a path of exile meme

https://i.imgur.com/7vimDQ8.png



LOL





Quote (Plaguefear @ Sep 15 2019 03:41pm)
Wish i could flash back to the 80's and watch ghot and his friends fight for big tobacco and james hardie and whine about all the scientists being wrong.
Look, if the overwhelming scientific consensus on something goes to the opposite side of most of the money and the few objectors are directly paid by big corporations with a vested interest we KNOW how this goes, they extend their profits a few more years by paying people off and muddying the waters on the science only to be eventually outed for their disgusting tactics.
This has happened a million times in the past but THIS time big oil and coal are right and the science is wrong right?
Even though we have DOCUMENTS from FREEDOM of INFORMATION requests that PROVE big oil DISCOVERED climate change and COVERED IT UP.
We have EMAIL CHAINS of them DISCUSSING this cover up.

We know climate science is real because if it wasn't the overwhelming scientific consensus would be where the money is, with the oil and coal cartels.
The combined wealth of the top 6 oil companies is over a trillion dollars.
The big miners are worth similar amounts.



Yeah, you're right. Scientific facts are based on who has the money. :/

Did you get kicked out of school, or just asked nicely, to leave?

This post was edited by Ghot on Sep 15 2019 03:14pm
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My god! You're right. I don't go to PaRD when I want to know about global climate either. :D


Maybe you should go to an expert to learn about climate science but ill spoil it for yoy, hes not going to tell you its fake
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Quote (Ghot @ Sep 15 2019 09:59am)
Not necessarily true. Depends on where we are falling of the grand scale. Or whether or not this change in the past fifty years is not just an aberration... a spike in the graph... if we had a graph that was more than say 100 years old.
ALL we are seeing is a change. We have neither the records or the know how to actually interpret that change.

And it doesn't even matter how "educated" the interpreters might be. By definition they don't have the experience (due to the vast time scales), to even attempt an interpretation.

Let's assume for a second that this is the graph for the temperature swings in the past 4 billion years...

https://i.imgur.com/2z7DGTG.png

Let's also assume that we are NOW, at the very end of this graph (the far right). A 50 year sample on a graph this large, means absolutely nothing. Actually it means less than nothing. The last 5000 years would be about .00000000000000000000000000000000000000001 pixels.
We have no real clue whether we are still in the trough or on the rising side of a crest. Even assuming that humans could in anyway affect this graph, short of say an all out nuclear war... is ludicrous.

/e I can just see the Earth typing: ROEL (rolling on the ecliptic laughing). Imma just slap some glacier action on these folk so they BEGIN to understand that they mean....diddly.


If we assume that graph is over 4 billion years then what we see would be a spike 50% of the height of the graph in less than a single pixel's worth of time. Doesn't take a genius to know that's not a natural occurrence since the slopes on that graph are mild by comparison.

Apparently you have no idea how to read graphs, since if it was full of spikes 5 degrees high it would look like random noise, not like smooth curves.
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