Quote (Ghot @ 15 Sep 2019 17:27)

Yeah... and in approx. 1000 BC Scientists KNEW dragons were eating the sun.

All that glorious evidence you quoted, means diddly. It's not even a fart on the timescale of Earth.

Hell, an all out nuclear war would only cause a nuclear winter. Not a nuclear ice age. 80 years ago the premier source of weather information was the Farmer's Almanac.



A history of greenhouse gases stretching back 800K years (if even accurate) is still nothing com[pared to the age of Earth and IT'S climate cycles. We have idiots running around these days, talking about cow farts. I guess they neglected to consider that all the dinosaur farts, didn't cause global warming.

Hell the dinosaur killer (whatever that actually was) didn't really affect the Earth, either.




What we DO have in the last century is a pile of scientists that have to publish or perish. That is the reality.


My favorite publish or perish act lately... has been "we saw the black hole at the center of the galaxy M87". We can't see the black hole at the center of our galaxy because: "We would be trying to see it sideways through our galaxy.

Iirc, our galaxy is spiral and 26 million LY to the center. M87 is globular and larger than the milky way, and 53 million LY away. But yeah, we can SEE that black hole. (and by SEE I mean... prove it's existence and determine it's size).




Scientists are stuck between a rock and a hard spot. They are in an unappreciated field, where you have to publish or perish. They can't do any science if they perish. So they are "forced" to publish just about every half baked idea they come up with.

The Paris Climate Accord... is nothing more than France trying to hang on to it's past glories. It's politics.









/e Let's assume for sake of argument that NASA is 100% correct in their 800K years of data. That's still only about 1/5000th of the age of the Earth. I'm sure you've all built puzzles before... maybe even a 5000 piece puzzle. ALL the climate data we have (if correct) is only ONE puzzle piece out of a 5000 piece puzzle. Yet here we are claiming to know what the big picture is with only ONE puzzle piece.

Quote (fender @ Sep 15 2019 01:45pm)

if you just spent half the time you invest into regurgitating non-sensical science denying talking points into critical research regarding the topic, you'd realise how mindblowingly stupid posts like that one are. you're literally making the whole forum dumber just by posting here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0

Quote (Ghot @ 15 Sep 2019 19:51)

You shouldn't assume that a person that posts on here, doesn't do research, just because they disagree with you. That's kind of idiotic.

Quote (Ghot @ Sep 15 2019 10:51am)

You shouldn't assume that a person that posts on here, doesn't do research, just because they disagree with you. That's kind of idiotic.

Quote (thundercock @ Sep 15 2019 02:01pm)

He's not doing that though. You're saying some really stupid things because you haven't done the proper research OR you're just a monumental idiot. He's giving you the benefit of doubt that you AREN'T stupid but most posters here understand that you are.

Quote (Ghot @ Sep 15 2019 11:10am)

Are you under the impression, that your (a stranger on the internet), opinion of me, matters to me?

Quote (thundercock @ Sep 15 2019 02:14pm)

Pride is a deadly sin.

Quote (Ghot @ Sep 15 2019 08:15pm)

Are you under the impression, that your (a stranger on the internet), opinion of me, matters to me?

Quote (Ghot @ 15 Sep 2019 19:51)

You shouldn't assume that a person that posts on here, doesn't do research, just because they disagree with you. That's kind of idiotic.

Quote (fender @ Sep 15 2019 02:20pm)

that's not the issue here though. you're not just disagreeing with me personally, you're also disagreeing with all the available research on the matter, with logic, facts, and science. there is an overwhelming scientific consensus that suggests you're simply wrong, and plenty of evidence exposing and refuting those that disagree and misinform on behalf of big oil.

if it was just me, fair enough, but you're not better than a flat earther regarding this topic...