Quote (addone @ Oct 18 2022 02:48pm)
That's some serious cope. God sends his son to save his children from himself in order to stay away a pit of fire and torment. He also loves you and gives you free will. Apparently showed up some 2000 years ago and only to certain people. Who just so happen to be around middle east. But the gods of literally every other religion and people on the rest of planet are false. Also it's a real shame dinosaurs couldn't fit on a magic boat that 900 year old man has built to save himself from a planetary anhialation.
Let's look at the Devil's tactics shall we? A perfect example of this is in Genesis 3 - The Fall.
Genesis 3:1-5
Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”
The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’”
“You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman. “For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”
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First quote: "Did God really say, 'You must not eat from any tree in the garden'?" - He makes out that God is stingy by withholding all the gifts. What did God say?
Genesis 2:16-17 "And the Lord God commanded the man, “You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die.”"
Second quote: "You will not certainly die" - He makes out that God is a straight up liar. God says you will certainly die but the Serpent says the opposite.
Third quote: "For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil." - He makes out that God is withholding the REALLY good stuff and that you know better. What was the outcome of that?
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I think what I am trying to say is that the Devil's tactic, which we saw way back in Genesis 3, the twisting of God's Word is still in use today and it's working quite well.
When you say the stuff that you say like in that right there post, it's obvious to us that the Devil has twisted God's Word and lead you astray.
Is God stingy? Is God a straight up liar? Is God withholding all the really good stuff from us?
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Oct 18 2022 03:25pm)
God gave you free will.
BUT YOU BETTER NOT USE IT OR HE'LL FUCKING SEND YOU TO HELL!
God created things which had free will. That means creatures which can go either wrong or right. Some people think they can imagine a creature which was free but had no possibility of going wrong; I cannot. If a thing is free to be good it is also free to be bad. And free will is what has made evil possible. Why, then, did God give them free will? Because free will though it makes evil possible, is also the only thing that makes possible any love or goodness or joy worth having. A world of automata-of creatures that worked like machines-would hardly be worth creating. The happiness which God designs for His higher creatures is the happiness of being freely, voluntarily united to Him and to each other in an ecstasy of love and delight compared with which the most rapturous love between a man and a woman on this earth is mere milk and water. And for that they must be free.
Of course God knew what would happen if they used their freedom the wrong way: apparently He thought it worth the risk. Perhaps we feel inclined to disagree with Him. But there is a difficulty about disagreeing with God. He is the source from which all your reasoning power comes: you could not be right and He wrong any more than a stream can rise higher than its own source. When you are arguing against Him you are arguing against the very power that makes you able to argue at all: it is like cutting off the branch you are sitting on. If God thinks this state of war in the universe a price worth paying for free will-that is, for making a live world in which creatures can do real good or harm and something of real importance can happen, instead of a toy world which only moves when He pulls the strings-then we may take it it is worth paying.