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Jun 12 2022 07:23pm
Quote (FantasyWorldII @ Jun 12 2022 05:30pm)
I absolutely 100% agree with that. My point literally has nothing to do with how police reacted (they should all be fired and maybe charged).

But the reality is that police (even if they stick to correct protocol) can't stop every mass shootins before they happen. My goal would be to minimize shootings before they happen. In my opinion only gun control can achieve that. Just like the rest of the world.
US isn't as special as one may think.


but they have gun control lol.. it isn't working, people who are doing mass shootings, murders etc don't care about what laws you have in place that isn't going to stop anything

schools should have armed guards, we protect hospitals why not schools where vulnerable people are?

places with very strict gun control still have lots of shootings so it isn't helping.
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Quote (SlamFkingDunk @ 13 Jun 2022 11:23)
but they have gun control lol.. it isn't working, people who are doing mass shootings, murders etc don't care about what laws you have in place that isn't going to stop anything

schools should have armed guards, we protect hospitals why not schools where vulnerable people are?

places with very strict gun control still have lots of shootings so it isn't helping.


If an 18 yo can buy legally 2 rifles, do you call that gun control? They need to be stricter. Way way stricter. Its a joke. Im not an US citizen and simply dont understand it quite well. In Australia we had one mass shooting and ppl banned guns. Since then (1999) we had zero mass shootings. I dont think US is very special. We still have guns but only criminals and gang members have one and they usually kill eachother :)

And gun control will not get rid of all mas shootings. But will decrease them for sure. Right now in US you can just buy guns legally from a diff state and take it with you. Its just ridiculous.

Sure you can put guards in schools and you will have to cus the rest of the system is so helpless.
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If an 18 yo can buy legally 2 rifles, do you call that gun control? They need to be stricter. Way way stricter. Its a joke. Im not an US citizen and simply dont understand it quite well. In Australia we had one mass shooting and ppl banned guns. Since then (1999) we had zero mass shootings. I dont think US is very special. We still have guns but only criminals and gang members have one and they usually kill eachother :)

And gun control will not get rid of all mas shootings. But will decrease them for sure. Right now in US you can just buy guns legally from a diff state and take it with you. Its just ridiculous.

Sure you can put guards in schools and you will have to cus the rest of the system is so helpless.


ok first, you can't compare Australia and USA completely different

second, most mass shootings are committed with hand guns, you realise that right?

gun buy backs or anything like that is not gonna fly in America, so you need to come up with other solutions, hence having armed guards at schools and police that do their job instead of waiting hours to go in and save school children

@ bold, you don't know this, also it would make logical sense if you made it harder for normal citizens to have guns to protect themselves home robbies etc would increase

@ red, and? it's ridiculous how.. explain what you mean lol, why is that ridiculous exactly?

if gun control was working chicago, california, and new york should be extremely safe..



everyone want's the same thing, they want children to be safe and less innocent people dying, the problem is that both sides think the propositions of the other side DO NOT WORK, we both know that for a fact having armed guards deters criminals though, do we not?

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Quote (SlamFkingDunk @ 13 Jun 2022 12:02)
ok first, you can't compare Australia and USA completely different


Explain why we are so different?


Quote (SlamFkingDunk @ 13 Jun 2022 12:02)
second, most mass shootings are committed with hand guns, you realise that right?


Come on man... I simply gave you an example that gun laws are too relaxed. The fact that you can buy a handgun at 21 is still extreme for any other person that lives outside US.

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gun buy backs or anything like that is not gonna fly in America, so you need to come up with other solutions, hence having armed guards at schools and police that do their job instead of waiting hours to go in and save school children


Why not? How do you think Australian citizens reacted to a buy back program? Exactly like you would but couple years later and noone misses the guns anymore. And ye sure put more guards :P

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bold, you don't know this, also it would make logical sense if you made it harder for normal citizens to have guns to protect themselves home robbies etc would increase


Well logic is: Less guns = less mass shootings.
Less guns = less shooting in general.

This is not my opinion btw. That is how it works and you can see the results if you compare other countries with US.

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red, and? it's ridiculous how.. explain what you mean lol, why is that ridiculous exactly?


I meant if a person cant legally get a certain gun in one state, they may be able to buy it legally in an other state. TBH I am not 100% sure about that.


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everyone want's the same thing, they want children to be safe and less innocent people dying, the problem is that both sides think the propositions of the other side DO NOT WORK, we both know that for a fact having armed guards deters criminals though, do we not?


What do you mean both sides. I dont care about your contries left and right politics. I simply compare a cuntry that has more guns than citizens to a country that does not. That should be a fair comparison and a valid point.
Yeah I agree that having armed guards will deter criminals you can also agree that guards can not be everywhere at all times to deter criminals.
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Quote (FantasyWorldII @ Jun 12 2022 07:27pm)
Explain why we are so different?



Come on man... I simply gave you an example that gun laws are too relaxed. The fact that you can buy a handgun at 21 is still extreme for any other person that lives outside US.


Why not? How do you think Australian citizens reacted to a buy back program? Exactly like you would but couple years later and noone misses the guns anymore. And ye sure put more guards :P


Well logic is: Less guns = less mass shootings.
Less guns = less shooting in general.


This is not my opinion btw. That is how it works and you can see the results if you compare other countries with US.


I meant if a person cant legally get a certain gun in one state, they may be able to buy it legally in an other state. TBH I am not 100% sure about that.



What do you mean both sides. I dont care about your contries left and right politics. I simply compare a cuntry that has more guns than citizens to a country that does not. That should be a fair comparison and a valid point.
Yeah I agree that having armed guards will deter criminals you can also agree that guards can not be everywhere at all times to deter criminals.


you have a lot of claims with some citations needed lol

you can't think of any reason why the USA and Australia are different? really?... ok.... how about the number of people, how about the second amendment guaranteeing someone the right to bare arms


also you can get a restricted firearms license in Canada at age 18

this bolded part, blows my fucking mind
ok, let's say a gun buy back program worked, everyone who was not a criminal gave their guns back to the government, now only police and criminals have guns, how is this going to stop innocent people dying exactly? and you say its logical?

this point is completely incoherent especially from someone who probably supports BLM riots and defund the police

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you have a lot of claims with some citations needed lol

you can't think of any reason why the USA and Australia are different? really?... ok.... how about the number of people, how about the second amendment guaranteeing someone the right to bare arms


Number of people is called scaling, yes it will make things more complex but totally doable.

2nd amendment is doing more harm than good. It was simply not designed for the 21st century.
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Quote (FantasyWorldII @ Jun 12 2022 07:35pm)
Number of people is called scaling, yes it will make things more complex but totally doable.

2nd amendment is doing more harm than good. It was simply not designed for the 21st century.


the historical record is clear. once the guns are taken then its the death squads and camps. whats going on over there and all the covid camps? still building those things?

australia gona be prison island for the world. found an article a while back one of them was named "world camp" isnt that a lil spooky

did you see the vid the ceo of psyster talking about 50% population reduction in 2023?

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the historical record is clear. once the guns are taken then its the death squads and camps. whats going on over there and all the covid camps? still building those things?

australia gona be prison island for the world. found an article a while back one of them was named "world camp" isnt that a lil spooky

did you see the vid the ceo of psyster talking about 50% population reduction in 2023?


hahaha what did you smoke? i want it too XD

literally everything you just said is not true... im living in Sydney and i am not sure what you are talking abt

what im sure of is that we dont have mass shootings

This post was edited by FantasyWorldII on Jun 12 2022 11:07pm
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hahaha what did you smoke? i want it too XD

literally everything you just said is not true... im living in Sydney and i am not sure what you are talking abt


Australia Queensland COVID-19 Quarantine Wellcamp (Concentration Camp) Vaccines Medical Martial Law
https://www.bitchute.com/video/EQxt8srEXkU1/

transitioning back to prison island
WEF covidiot world
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Australia Queensland COVID-19 Quarantine Wellcamp (Concentration Camp) Vaccines Medical Martial Law
https://www.bitchute.com/video/EQxt8srEXkU1/

transitioning back to prison island
WEF covidiot world


ahhhhh wellcamp... yeah that's pretty extreme in Queensland but you probably don't really understand the reason behind it and simply call it a prison.
I also disagree with that but I understand why they would want international travelers to stay in quarantine for couple of days.

What does this have to do with gun laws in the US? Holy shit. I love your whataboutism. That's a good skill to have but can only get you so far.

You still have mass shootings and kids are being killed. We may have some annoyance to have to quarantine after taking an international trip so that we don't give Covid to more people than necessary.

I am sure you know that you should not try to involve covid numbers cus not only is US mishandling weapon laws but also covid:
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

So let's stick to gun issues... because you have lots of them.
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